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What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

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fused
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Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

You're right! My bad! My brain is fried from all of the reading and posting lately. If the CO reports a zero balance, your scores should improve.
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Anonymous
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Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

Whew, fused, don't scare me like that! I was just grabbing my forehead and wondering what on earth I've just done (and what's wrong with my comprehension skills)! LOL
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fused
Moderator Emeritus

Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

I'm trying to find more information on the updating bug in FICO scoring. Like I said, paying a collection doesn't improve or hurt scores because balances and util don't factor in. They do in CO's. What is your current overall and individual util, including this CO? What will it be when the CO reports a paid balance?
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Anonymous
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Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency



@fused wrote:
I'm trying to find more information on the updating bug in FICO scoring. Like I said, paying a collection doesn't improve or hurt scores because balances and util don't factor in. They do in CO's. What is your current overall and individual util, including this CO? What will it be when the CO reports a paid balance?



I honestly think the bug is in the date itself. In my opinion, the system should be designed NOT to based scoring on the DOLA, but, rather, on the DOFD, and leave it at that! It's a really sad thing that the folks at FI are aware of the issue, and not addressing it. Not only bad for consumers trying to do the right thing, but, bad for business as well, because it makes folks apprehensive to pay, so, they don't! Now, back to myself...my overall utilization? Well, I have two vehicle loans open, now somewhere around 50k? As far as credit cards, I'm doing very well with those. I'm an AU on one of my family business accounts, which is around $3k (20-something percent) & not my debt, but, I'm not sure how much that matters. On my cards, I think I owe around $2500 on all my cards combined...which, is no more than 10-15%. All together, including the AU account, my load is very low, and I'm even paying the $2500 down to about $1000; I plan to stay at no more than $1000-2000.
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johnpalley
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Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

ssstevie, im with you. i just had a co from amex that stopped reporting in 2005. all of the sudden it started reporting again 2 days ago so now it says 2008 on the account. my score crashed 19 points and i havent had any delinquancies in three years. 19 points!!! for no reason other than reporting again. this past year my score has gone up 40 because im rebuilding, now all the sudden half my point that ive earned are just taken away that quick and theres nothing new i did wrong.

Message Edited by johnpalley on 08-11-2008 06:32 PM
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fused
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Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

This is why it's a bad idea to dispute sometimes...
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johnpalley
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Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

fused , you got that straight!
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Anonymous
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Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency



@johnpalley wrote:
ssstevie, im with you. i just had a co from amex that stopped reporting in 2005. all of the sudden it started reporting again 2 days ago so now it says 2008 on the account. my score crashed 19 points and i havent had any delinquancies in three years. 19 points!!! for no reason other than reporting again. this past year my score has gone up 40 because im rebuilding, now all the sudden half my point that ive earned are just taken away that quick and theres nothing new i did wrong.

Message Edited by johnpalley on 08-11-2008 06:32 PM


Wait, wait...I'm confused here. I get what you meant about it not reporting, but, now reporting again, but, what date says 2008? Is it the DOFD, or the last activity, or what? If it's the last activity, that is re-aging, which would be false, and illegal. If it's just the "date reported", then, ok, that's legit. But, if you don't mind my asking...what is the limit, and what's the outstanding balance? If mine dropped 19 points (although I'm expecting it to rise), I wouldn't be so mad if that were all it dropped, because, I know I could easily pull that back up with my strong credit within a few months. I'm a little afraid of it dropping more. I'm wondering about this because of the recent derog I paid...
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johnpalley
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Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

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Message Edited by johnpalley on 08-11-2008 08:48 PM
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johnpalley
Established Contributor

Re: What's more hurtful; High Utilization in CO or Recency of Delinquency

can you make that out ok? where it says reported under equifax in used to say 2004.

Message Edited by johnpalley on 08-11-2008 09:01 PM
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