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I understand FICO tops at 850. When is it high enough that a mortgage company doesn't care any more? For example, would it make a difference if my FICO were 840 as opposed to 820? Thanks
760 and up is prime time.
Just curious, are there any lenders that use 780 as the new 760 for top tier? I realize it is still 760 for mortgages based off Fico 04 and Fico 98
However, I thought I saw somewhere that certain credit card issuers may use 780 for Fico 08 as a lowest interest rate benchmark.
@Thomas_Thumb wrote:Just curious, are there any lenders that use 780 as the new 760 for top tier? I realize it is still 760 for mortgages based off Fico 04 and Fico 98
However, I thought I saw somewhere that certain credit card issuers may use 780 for Fico 08 as a lowest interest rate benchmark.
Not that I've ever seen nor heard of; however, unless we're talking low rate / balance carrying cards to begin with, it's sort of irrelevant in my book. It's certainly possible, big given the importance of mortages compared to any credit card, I'm comfortable in saying that 760 is as good as one's score needs to be other than buffer purposes.
I will probably get to 800 someday and stay around here, I sort of have the opinion that if I get to an 850 ever it will be a mistake on my part as I probably missed an opportunity to leverage my credit report in there somewhere. That opinion may change once I get to be gold plated .
@Thomas_Thumb wrote:Just curious, are there any lenders that use 780 as the new 760 for top tier? I realize it is still 760 for mortgages based off Fico 04 and Fico 98
However, I thought I saw somewhere that certain credit card issuers may use 780 for Fico 08 as a lowest interest rate benchmark.
The only lender I know of that likes to see 800+ credit scores for the best rates is Lightstream. They specialize in unsecured loans to wealthy, super prime customers. For example, an unsecured new, auto loan at 1.99%. They send you the cash. You then go buy the car you want. I haven't ever dealt with them, but I could see how it would be convenient when buying a car from an individual. Or if the dealer would let you put the entire purchase on a credit card.
Even with a 800 credit score, they are going to want to see substantial assets. I do not believe they offer any credit card products (although, SunTrust, their parent bank does offer credit cards). There are probably other unsecured lenders out there that also like to see very high credit scores.
@Revelate wrote:
@Thomas_Thumb wrote:Just curious, are there any lenders that use 780 as the new 760 for top tier? I realize it is still 760 for mortgages based off Fico 04 and Fico 98
However, I thought I saw somewhere that certain credit card issuers may use 780 for Fico 08 as a lowest interest rate benchmark.
Not that I've ever seen nor heard of; however, unless we're talking low rate / balance carrying cards to begin with, it's sort of irrelevant in my book. It's certainly possible, big given the importance of mortages compared to any credit card, I'm comfortable in saying that 760 is as good as one's score needs to be other than buffer purposes.
I will probably get to 800 someday and stay around here, I sort of have the opinion that if I get to an 850 ever it will be a mistake on my part as I probably missed an opportunity to leverage my credit report in there somewhere. That opinion may change once I get to be gold plated
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I always PIF my CCs. Nonetheless, I still feel insulted when the interest rate tied to one of my CC accounts is not the lowest offered (promotional offers excluded).
Shown below are Fico 08 category assignments per American Express. There appears to be some upward movement for top tier Fico 8 scores in the credit card industry. I have seen a couple other CC companies list 780+.
800+ Excellent
740 – 799 Very Good
670 – 739 Good
580 – 669 Not Good
579 or less Poor
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I am curious... what kinds of assets? Do they consider retirement accounts? Do they ask you to produce copies of your tax return for income verification?
Who is they?
Edit - Sorry CGID, I think your question was directed toward info on Lightstream (per CreditDunce's post). My mistake
So Willie what are your scores? What are you aiming for?
@Anonymous wrote:I am curious... what kinds of assets? Do they consider retirement accounts? Do they ask you to produce copies of your tax return for income verification?
I talked with them last year about an auto loan, but I decided I didn't need a new car. At the time, their website had a little blurb saying their ideal candidate for the anything loans was someone with a high 700 or low 800 credit score. And they also said they were looking for people with considerable assets. I don't see that on their website now (the website has been completely redesigned).
From the older posts, it looks like they only ask for pay stubs from most people. However, it is possible, they are using third party databases to get an estimate on your wealth. At the time, I just asked how much time do I have after I have the money before I must complete the purchase. I didn't ask any questions about income/assets.
At the time I was looking at Lightstream, there were not many posts on them. This was the best myfico thread:
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/Weird-Auto-Loan-Question/td-p/3014696
There are a couple more recent post (I am not including a couple of posts from people with good credit scores that were denied):
http://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Auto-Loans/LightStream/td-p/2192143
If you are interested in the Anything loans, I would also read the threads from bogleheads...
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=lightstream+site:bogleheads.org