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Queen_Etherea
Valued Contributor

Why are my scores so low?

Ok so I know I’ve posted about 4,654 times on this forum, but here’s one more! (you guys are just so helpful Heart)

 

Maybe you guys can figure out why my scores are still so low. I’ve been rebuilding since earlier this year and started out in the 580’s. I’ve almost raised my scores about 100 points thanks to this forum! My goal for now is to get to the 700’s, and eventually, the 800’s. I’ll post all info that seems necessary, but if you guys need more, just ask!

 

 

Overall UTI:  20%

Total Credit:  $5,300 ($5,800 when AMEX reports)

 

Loans

PenFed Auto Loan: $13.2k balance (5/2017)

Navient Student Loan: $4k balance (2/2016 – rehabbed)

CIG Financial: Closed – (1) 30 day late from 2013

Chase: Closed-Paid (opened and closed same day due to dealership error 5/2017)

 

 

Credit Cards/Store Cards

Wells Fargo Secured Credit Card: $793/$1,200 (3/2017)

Capital One Quicksilver: $19/$500 (10/2017)

PayPal 2% MC: $96/$300 (9/2018)

Amazon Store Card: $0/$800  (9/2018)

CareCredit: $0/$1,000  (9/2018)

American Express Blue Everyday: $0/$500   (9/2018) – not reporting yet

Discover IT: $269/$1,500 (9/2018)

 

Collections

CMRE Financial (medical): $80-paid   (falls off next year)

Collection Consultants of California (medical): $1,672-Open (falls off next month)

 

AAoA: 2 years 6 months (according to EX)

AoYA:  <1 month

Oldest Account: 11 years, 9 months

 

Inquiries:  10 (4 in the past year)

 

And there you have it! I didn’t know that Discover was going to report my balance so soon. It hasn’t even been one month and they already reported it, so now that I know the date, I will make sure to pay it down to below 8.9%. The Capital One card should’ve been at $0, but my son (5) decided to buy a game on the Xbox while at my mom’s house and I didn’t know he had access to my account there. Same thing with the PayPal card; they reported a balance after the 2nd week of having it. I've PIF all these accounts, they're just not reporting that info at the moment.

 

I just can’t figure out what’s holding me back so much. Even before all these new accounts, my scores were in the low 600’s. Actually, adding all these new accounts hardly did anything to my scores. Credit Karma just alerted me my score dropped 54 points and the only reason it gave was because of the PayPal card? I know these hold no weight, but it was a little concerning. I can't pull all 3 bureaus until another 16 days or so.

 

The Wells Fargo card has been paid down to $400, which should help my UTI and I'll pay it off completely on the 10th when I get paid. The only one I'm going to let report a balance from now on is the Discover card.

 

I'm not sure if fixing the UTI is going to help all that much, or if I'm just going to have to give this stuff time to age. Seems like time is the only thing that's going to help at the moment. If you guys can offer any advice on things I can do to improve my credit, I'd be forever greatful.

 

Thanks you guys!

 

I think I've found the sacred map that may lead me to this garden everyone keeps talking about.



Officially collection free as of 3/19/19!!
STARTING SCORES: 377 (11/2013) & 580 (3/2018)
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FireMedic1
Community Leader
Mega Contributor

Re: Why are my scores so low?


@Queen_Etherea wrote:

Ok so I know I’ve posted about 4,654 times on this forum, but here’s one more! (you guys are just so helpful Heart)

 

Maybe you guys can figure out why my scores are still so low. I’ve been rebuilding since earlier this year and started out in the 580’s. I’ve almost raised my scores about 100 points thanks to this forum! My goal for now is to get to the 700’s, and eventually, the 800’s. I’ll post all info that seems necessary, but if you guys need more, just ask!

 

 

Overall UTI:  20%

Total Credit:  $5,300 ($5,800 when AMEX reports)

 

Loans

PenFed Auto Loan: $13.2k balance (5/2017)

Navient Student Loan: $4k balance (2/2016 – rehabbed)

CIG Financial: Closed – (1) 30 day late from 2013

Chase: Closed-Paid (opened and closed same day due to dealership error 5/2017)

 

 

Credit Cards/Store Cards

Wells Fargo Secured Credit Card: $793/$1,200 (3/2017)

Capital One Quicksilver: $19/$500 (10/2017)

PayPal 2% MC: $96/$300 (9/2018)

Amazon Store Card: $0/$800  (9/2018)

CareCredit: $0/$1,000  (9/2018)

American Express Blue Everyday: $0/$500   (9/2018) – not reporting yet

Discover IT: $269/$1,500 (9/2018)

 

Collections

CMRE Financial (medical): $80-paid   (falls off next year)

Collection Consultants of California (medical): $1,672-Open (falls off next month)

 

AAoA: 2 years 6 months (according to EX)

AoYA:  <1 month

Oldest Account: 11 years, 9 months

 

Inquiries:  10 (4 in the past year)

 

And there you have it! I didn’t know that Discover was going to report my balance so soon. It hasn’t even been one month and they already reported it, so now that I know the date, I will make sure to pay it down to below 8.9%. The Capital One card should’ve been at $0, but my son (5) decided to buy a game on the Xbox while at my mom’s house and I didn’t know he had access to my account there. Same thing with the PayPal card; they reported a balance after the 2nd week of having it. I've PIF all these accounts, they're just not reporting that info at the moment.

 

I just can’t figure out what’s holding me back so much. Even before all these new accounts, my scores were in the low 600’s. Actually, adding all these new accounts hardly did anything to my scores. Credit Karma just alerted me my score dropped 54 points and the only reason it gave was because of the PayPal card? I know these hold no weight, but it was a little concerning. I can't pull all 3 bureaus until another 16 days or so.

 

The Wells Fargo card has been paid down to $400, which should help my UTI and I'll pay it off completely on the 10th when I get paid. The only one I'm going to let report a balance from now on is the Discover card.

 

I'm not sure if fixing the UTI is going to help all that much, or if I'm just going to have to give this stuff time to age. Seems like time is the only thing that's going to help at the moment. If you guys can offer any advice on things I can do to improve my credit, I'd be forever greatful.

 

Thanks you guys!

 


More detailed experts will come along. But. Utilization. Getting to AZEO will help.

Credit Cards/Store Cards

Wells Fargo Secured Credit Card: $793/$1,200 (3/2017) >54% util

Capital One Quicksilver: $19/$500 (10/2017) Great util

PayPal 2% MC: $96/$300 (9/2018) 30% util

Amazon Store Card: $0/$800  (9/2018) Great

CareCredit: $0/$1,000  (9/2018) Great

American Express Blue Everyday: $0/$500   (9/2018) – not reporting yet

Discover IT: $269/$1,500 (9/2018) 21% util

If you can get to AZEO it will help alot. 5 cards opened in 1 (Sept 2018) month didn't help too much. The hard pulls and new accounts didnt help too much either. No more apps for now and let time be your best friend. Pick a card to be your one that reports a balance each month. Pay the rest off after using them before statement cuts. I'll let the experts do the installment ratio counts. GL! Nice cards though.


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Queen_Etherea
Valued Contributor

Re: Why are my scores so low?


@FireMedic1 wrote:

 


More detailed experts will come along. But. Utilization. Getting to AZEO will help.

Credit Cards/Store Cards

Wells Fargo Secured Credit Card: $793/$1,200 (3/2017) >54% util

Capital One Quicksilver: $19/$500 (10/2017) Great util

PayPal 2% MC: $96/$300 (9/2018) 30% util

Amazon Store Card: $0/$800  (9/2018) Great

CareCredit: $0/$1,000  (9/2018) Great

American Express Blue Everyday: $0/$500   (9/2018) – not reporting yet

Discover IT: $269/$1,500 (9/2018) 21% util

If you can get to AZEO it will help alot. 5 cards opened in 1 (Sept 2018) month didn't help too much. The hard pulls and new accounts didnt help too much either. No more apps for now and let time be your best friend. Pick a card to be your one that reports a balance each month. Pay the rest off after using them before statement cuts. I'll let the experts do the installment ratio counts. GL! Nice cards though.


Yeah I figured time and UTI were my best bets here. Can it really be dragging my scores down THIS much, though? I've had my Wells Fargo card reporting a really high balance pretty much since I've had it, so I wouldn't even know what my scores would be if I had good UTI on that card. The statement end date is on the 6th or 7th (depending on how many days in the month) so if I pay it down to $300, it'll be below 28.9% at least. I have enough money to do it, I'm just waiting for my check on the 10th because I have no bills to pay with that check. It all goes towards whatever the heck I want (mostly savings).

 

I know opening all those cards this month wasn't the brightest idea, but at least I have what I want for now and can sit back and let them age. Hopefully I can get some nice CLI in the future. I'm being really responsible about paying everything as soon as it posts, there was just a gap in the payments and when it posted to my credit report, I guess. I also wasn't expecting these cards to post a balance so soon! I thought I had at least the full month to pay them down to $0. Lesson learned...

I think I've found the sacred map that may lead me to this garden everyone keeps talking about.



Officially collection free as of 3/19/19!!
STARTING SCORES: 377 (11/2013) & 580 (3/2018)
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Why are my scores so low?

Given that 30 day lates only affect your score for a few years, and that FICO 8 ignores collections under $100 and FICO 9 ignores all paid collections, the single biggest drag on your score is the unpaid collection, putting smaller impacts like UTI, inquiries, AoYA, AAoA... etc. aside.
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Why are my scores so low?

OP have you gotten your first Discover statement? 

What FICO score is shown on that?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
Message 5 of 26
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Why are my scores so low?

30D late may or may not be hurting you at this point, it'll be excluded in 2020.

 

The collections are the score killer as they're bucketing you in the derogatory scorecards.

 

CK scores are Vantage rather than FICO, new account when you are in the derogatory scorecards for FICO as near as I can tell doesn't impact your score at all unless you trip over an AAOA boundary: in the pretty scorecards Age of Youngest Account appears to also affect scorecard assignment, the reason code doesn't even show up in collection / public record scorecards.

 

Some minor utilization issues and the inquiries are hampering you a little bit too: just sit on your hands and let everything age, probably a small impact on the installment loan utilization but really I wouldn't be surprised if you break 760 when the collection comes off and you might do better than that depending on that 30D.

 

 




        
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DollyLama
Established Contributor

Re: Why are my scores so low?

It may bump a fair amount next month when the large collection ages off.  FICO 8 tends to not factor <$100 collections if they are medical. 

 

From there, just sit tight a year- Let your new accounts age, the inquiries age off, and keep up with the planned low utilization as much as possible. 

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AndySoCal
Senior Contributor

Re: Why are my scores so low?

Yes it will help when the collection falls. The student loans I presume are not reporting any derogatory information. Your scores will drop once those new accounts start reporting. The score should recover in 6 months to a year so.

FIC Scores XPN v8 808 V2 831 (SDFCU) TUC V 8 803 03/25 EFX Bankcard v8 822 EFX FIC0 v8 800 Vantage score 4.0 817 via JC Penney )
Discover IT 09/90, 19000, JC Penney 10/2008 4700, US Bank Cash 08/2010 12,000 Citibank Custom Cash 5/2015 11,100 State Dept. FCU 20,000 06/2023 , 02/2024 Redstone FCU Signature VISA 10,000 08/23/2024 Langley FCU Signature Cash Back Visa 10000
Banking: Langley FCU Credit Unions: Lafayette FCU Fortera FCU State Department FCU Pelican State CU Red-stone FCU Hughes FCU
My personal blacklist Axos Bank, Bank of America, Synchrony Bank Capital One TD Bank Comerica Bank BMO
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Why are my scores so low?

The OPs utilization is probably 1/4 the problem that the collection is in terms of adverse impact on FICO scores.

Message 9 of 26
Queen_Etherea
Valued Contributor

Re: Why are my scores so low?

Yup! My score was the one in my signature right now for TU. TU doesn’t have that collection on there, but my scores are still pretty low. I guess UTI is my biggest problem here.
I think I've found the sacred map that may lead me to this garden everyone keeps talking about.



Officially collection free as of 3/19/19!!
STARTING SCORES: 377 (11/2013) & 580 (3/2018)
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