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Why did my score drop?

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donkort
Valued Contributor

Re: Why did my score drop?

In my experience, once a pattern of consistent online monthly payments is established in a new card, your score recovers.

 

And if it has a high credit limit, it will actually rise a bit.

 

Like others are saying, it's a matter of 3 months or so.

FICO 8: EQ 810; TU 816; EX 822 as of 7/5/2022
Message 11 of 23
Anonymous
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Re: Why did my score drop?

No fico does not view a store card any differently. CBIS credit based insurance scores are the ones that don’t like store cards.

@Anonymous IF and I say IF, the AU account is counting and it is your only AU account and you zeroed it, you are experiencing the “no revolving AU balance” penalty.

Just like you get a no revolving balance penalty when you have no balance on any primary account, the same is independently true for AU accounts. So it could be number one.

With that said what was the age of your youngest revolver when the store card hit? What’s the age of your oldest account? How many accounts do you have? And do you have any baddies?
Message 12 of 23
Anonymous
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Re: Why did my score drop?

Thanks Birdman. 

 

"Just like you get a no revolving balance penalty when you have no balance on any primary account, the same is independently true for AU accounts."

 

Yes, the AU account is my only AU account.  We zeroed it out because we want to apply for a mortgage soon and have read on here that AZEO is best and that the "one" account should have me as the primary person (i.e., not AU).  So I want my score to be maximized for the mortgage FICO scores.  But I don't want to remove the AU account because it's by far my oldest account.  Please advise on this.  

 

As for adding the Target card less than a year before we are planning to apply for a mortgage, I realize that wasn't bright...now.  At the time, I hadn't known that.  The holidays were approaching and I used the discount they offer cardholders to purchase gifts.  Too late now.  I don't have any other inquiries or new cards in the past 12 months.  

 

Re: your other questions, my oldest account is the AU (over nine years), while my oldest non-AU account is about 3.5 years.  I have nine accounts, including the AU and Target card - all revolvers.  My only current balance being reported is 12% on one card (I will pay that down to a lower amount soon).  I do have one baddie, a collection, which I paid off and was told it would be deleted in a week or two (agreement was made mid-January and was told it would be removed in 30 days).  That collection has shown as PIF for a few weeks now, so that didn't cause the drop this week.  

 

Bottom line is if I'm being penalized for my only AU being 0, but need the AU to raise my oldest/average account age, what should my strategy be there if I want to maximize my mortgage scores?  Thanks!

 

 

 

 

Message 13 of 23
Anonymous
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Re: Why did my score drop?

@AnonymousYou are perfectly fine. To my knowledge, the no revolving AU balance penalty only applies to version 8, not the mortgage scores.

With that said, if you’re worried about a mortgage, you’re totally looking at the wrong scores. Version 8 is meaningless, you need to look at 5-4-2.

The mortgage scores and version 8 react totally different many things, so you can’t gauge your progress by looking at version 8, if you’re preparing for a mortgage.

You’re going to have to pay for your mortgage scores most likely. Yes you need to practice AZEO with a primary account that’s a national bank card with a credit limit under 26K.
Message 14 of 23
Anonymous
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Re: Why did my score drop?

@omgitsMatt Can you confirm whether the mortgage scores were affected by the no revolving AU balance penalty?

I’m almost certain it’s only version 8 and 9 possibly, but I know you recently tested so couldn’t hurt to get your perspective!
Message 15 of 23
Anonymous
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Re: Why did my score drop?

Yes, I'm aware the mortgage scores are different; I just don't want to pay until we're closer to applying.  Thanks, though! 

Message 16 of 23
Anonymous
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Re: Why did my score drop?

Well good luck to you because there’s no way to gauge the mortgage scores by version 8.
Message 17 of 23
donkort
Valued Contributor

Re: Why did my score drop?

That's true.  There really is no way.  Some people have lower scores under the older models; others have higher scores.  I almost always have higher scores.  

 

FICO 8: EQ 810; TU 816; EX 822 as of 7/5/2022
Message 18 of 23
AllZero
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Re: Why did my score drop?


@Anonymous wrote:

Yes, I'm aware the mortgage scores are different; I just don't want to pay until we're closer to applying.  Thanks, though! 


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Message 19 of 23
omgitsMatt
Frequent Contributor

Re: Why did my score drop?


@Anonymous wrote:
@omgitsMattCan you confirm whether the mortgage scores were affected by the no revolving AU balance penalty?

I’m almost certain it’s only version 8 and 9 possibly, but I know you recently tested so couldn’t hurt to get your perspective!

The mortgage scores went UP for me. But my 8 & 9 scores went down.

 

B' and I tested this a lot a few months ago.

 

Theres a quirk in the algorithm for 8 & 9 scores. They'll drop on you like you saw if you have no revolving balance on AUs, even if you have a revolving balance on _your_ cards.

 

BUT, your older scores like 5, 4 & 2 may have went up by 10 pts probably give or take.

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