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fico2 scores bounce back fast?

it is said that fico2 scores get ruined by applying for new credit and the idea is that you have to garden for a whole year before getting a mortgage. i am finding that they bounce back very fast after applying for credit, here's some data i gathered to show it.


// sep30 (starting scores)

FICO® SCORE 2 = 735

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 2 = 740
FICO® AUTO SCORE 2 = 710
FICO® SCORE 3 = 707

FICO® SCORE 8 = 715

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 8 = 710

FICO® AUTO SCORE 8 = 685

 

// oct 22 (1 BoA inquiry and 1 new barclays acct appears showing 1mo of good payment. scores fall)

FICO® SCORE 2 = 726

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 2 = 720

FICO® AUTO SCORE 2 = 702

FICO® SCORE 3 = 710

FICO® SCORE 8 = 719
FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 8 = 722
FICO® AUTO SCORE 8 = 682

 

// nov 3 (1 new amex acct appears showing 2mo of good payments, scores fall further)

FICO® SCORE 2 = 721

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 2 = 708

FICO® AUTO SCORE 2 = 698

FICO® SCORE 3 = 713

FICO® SCORE 8 = 717
FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 8 = 712
FICO® AUTO SCORE 8 = 680

 

// nov 9 (all the scores have almost completely bounced back!)

FICO® SCORE 2 = 734

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 2 = 722

FICO® AUTO SCORE 2 = 710

FICO® SCORE 3 = 713

FICO® SCORE 8 = 717
FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 8 = 719
FICO® AUTO SCORE 8 = 680

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?


@Anonymous wrote:

it is said that fico2 scores get ruined by applying for new credit and the idea is that you have to garden for a whole year before getting a mortgage. i am finding that they bounce back very fast after applying for credit, here's some data i gathered to show it.


// sep30 (starting scores)

FICO® SCORE 2 = 735

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 2 = 740
FICO® AUTO SCORE 2 = 710
FICO® SCORE 3 = 707

FICO® SCORE 8 = 715

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 8 = 710

FICO® AUTO SCORE 8 = 685

 

// oct 22 (1 BoA inquiry and 1 new barclays acct appears showing 1mo of good payment. scores fall)

FICO® SCORE 2 = 726

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 2 = 720

FICO® AUTO SCORE 2 = 702

FICO® SCORE 3 = 710

FICO® SCORE 8 = 719
FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 8 = 722
FICO® AUTO SCORE 8 = 682

 

// nov 3 (1 new amex acct appears showing 2mo of good payments, scores fall further)

FICO® SCORE 2 = 721

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 2 = 708

FICO® AUTO SCORE 2 = 698

FICO® SCORE 3 = 713

FICO® SCORE 8 = 717
FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 8 = 712
FICO® AUTO SCORE 8 = 680

 

// nov 9 (all the scores have almost completely bounced back!)

FICO® SCORE 2 = 734

FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 2 = 722

FICO® AUTO SCORE 2 = 710

FICO® SCORE 3 = 713

FICO® SCORE 8 = 717
FICO® BANKCARD SCORE 8 = 719
FICO® AUTO SCORE 8 = 680


1. The only FICO 2 score that matters for mortgage applications is the classic FICO 2.

2.  Are you saying that from Sept 30 to Nov 9 there has not been a single change in your profile other than the passage of time? If so, that is pretty remarkable.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
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Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?


@SouthJamaica wrote:


1. The only FICO 2 score that matters for mortgage applications is the classic FICO 2.

2.  Are you saying that from Sept 30 to Nov 9 there has not been a single change in your profile other than the passage of time? If so, that is pretty remarkable.


on nov3 scores were at their worst, and it was only the 5 days during nov4 to nov9 that there was no changes

the more detailed history was like this:

 

9/1: fico2 = 739

9/3: apply for amex card (approved)

10/20: fico2 = 724 (scores fell for the amex inquiry)

10/21: apply for BoA card (denied)

10/21: apply for barclays card (approved)

10/22: 1 BoA inquiry and 1 new barclays acct appears on report and scores fall

11/3: 1 new amex acct appears on report showing 2mo of good payments, scores fall further

11/9: noticed that all scores have almost completely bounced back

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Trudy
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Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?

Just curious, what was the # of accounts reporting a balance before and then after?  What was the UTL (individually - per acct and separetely, AGG) reporting before and after?

FICO - 8: 05/05/23
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Anonymous
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Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?

if you give me specific dates you're interested in i can look, the # of accts with balances was sometimes 1 or 2, and the util was always pretty low.

 

how long does it usually take for the fico2 score to bounce back? any data showing it?

 

mine has bounced back in a week basically. because the best my fico2 ever was is 739 and the worst was 721. it's now only 5pts away from being back to the highest it ever was.

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Trudy
Valued Contributor

Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?

Hey creds,

I'm asking about the # of accts and UTL before the new account, after the new acct and as you saw your MTG score rise.  I'm asking because along with new accts, # of accts and UTL usually have a greater impact on MTG scores than F8 basic scores. Just trying to pin down whether age of the new acct is the only factor impacting the increase in your MTG scores, ergo, rebounding quickly.

 

There's a decent difference in my MTG scores when 1 revolver reports vs 2.  More significant when 3 revolvers report along with 2 loans (MTG & auto) vs 1 revolver and the 2 loans.  I had a similar experience but what also contributed to the rebound was the decrease in # of accts reporting and possibly UTL after the new account.  Granted all profiles are different.

 

New acct 6/2018:

EX MTG was 786 before

770 when new acct reported in early Aug, 4 accts (2 revolvers, 2 loans) reporting 7% AGG UTL

Reported 5 accts (3 revolvers 2 loans) 7% AGG UTL 9/30/18 MTG = 747

Reported 3 accts (1 revolver 2 loans) 10/30/18, UTL 1% AGG, MTG score = 785.   (supports the AZEO method)

Reported 4 accts (2 revolvers 2 loans) 11/30/18 6% AGG UTL MTG dropped to 773.  3 pts above original hit for new acct.

FICO - 8: 05/05/23
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Anonymous
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Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?

Try getting a mortgage with new accounts. Lender isn't going for it even if your score is good, most likely.

As stated, many things go into score, # of accounts with a balance, utilization, ect..., so, had the new accounts not been there, the score would be even higher.
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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?

Mine did not show any significant recovery for about six months from last new account. Even that wasn't stellar, maybe 10 points at best. I would not expect huge leaps till about a year from last new account 

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Anonymous
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Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?

It's possible due to your young and thin file that EX2 is so quick to bounce back. Most of us spend a long time paying the EX2 piper. My EX2 auto is especially hateful at 644 while my EX2 classic is 694, EX2 bankcard is 679 and my EX8 is 715. 

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Anonymous
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Re: fico2 scores bounce back fast?

I saw no AOYA recovery at 12 months on EX2.

Makes me wonder if the line is further out or if AoYA as we know it even applies to EX2.
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