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dunn2500
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inquiries raising score/ alert notifications

if you have a thin file would new inquiries raise your credit score if everything else remained the same......i know the alerts arent necessarily the reason for a score change but it seems odd that whenever score changes there is a reason and  change to score at same time......it makes one believe if nothing else has changed but the alert and score changes than it is the reason......for sure some or alot of the time it is the reason for spike or decline it just doesnt necessarily have to be.........if you have a thin file would inquiring to get thicker file be rewarded if all your accounts are in good standing and nothing in negative for quite some time or am I high?

 

instead of my score dropping for inquiry i got a bump 3pts for each ( this was awhile ago).....and also how long would it take typically an inquiry show up as well?.....

 

at the point where i want 2 more cards but dont want retributions of denial and or more points loss.....( i lost alot of points for no apparent reason other than refinancing so algorithm is kinda spooky)....

 

would buying a vehicle and paying it off in 6 months, than buying another right away and refinancing a few months later cause the algorithm to to penalize a person.....2 closed accts close together?......just trying to understand causes and reasons why it does what it does......thnx .

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Anonymous
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Re: inquiries raising score/ alert notifications

inquiries do not raise your score, and they do not make it thicker in a positive sense

 

they lower your scores until you max out on the penalty from them

 

inquiries show up when the lender pulls your report(s) which is typically instantly as you hit submit

 

you'd probably have lower scores after getting a new auto loan, and then re-fi on top too

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@dunn2500 wrote:

 

instead of my score dropping for inquiry i got a bump 3pts for each ( this was awhile ago).....and also how long would it take typically an inquiry show up as well?.....

 


Your scores did not increase from inquiries.  That cannot happen.  The only outcome from the addition of an inquiry is a score drop or no score drop (score remains the same).  Never an increase.

 

If your score did increase, it came from something else.  If it happened at the same time was the inquiry, you'd actually be looking for a factor that increased your score 3 or more points.  For example, if the inquiry was "worth" 5 points [loss] on your file but you saw a net gain of 3 points, it means a different factor at the same time raised your score 8 points.

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SouthJamaica
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@dunn2500 wrote:

if you have a thin file would new inquiries raise your credit score if everything else remained the same......i know the alerts arent necessarily the reason for a score change but it seems odd that whenever score changes there is a reason and  change to score at same time......it makes one believe if nothing else has changed but the alert and score changes than it is the reason......for sure some or alot of the time it is the reason for spike or decline it just doesnt necessarily have to be.........if you have a thin file would inquiring to get thicker file be rewarded if all your accounts are in good standing and nothing in negative for quite some time or am I high?

 

instead of my score dropping for inquiry i got a bump 3pts for each ( this was awhile ago).....and also how long would it take typically an inquiry show up as well?.....

 

at the point where i want 2 more cards but dont want retributions of denial and or more points loss.....( i lost alot of points for no apparent reason other than refinancing so algorithm is kinda spooky)....

 

would buying a vehicle and paying it off in 6 months, than buying another right away and refinancing a few months later cause the algorithm to to penalize a person.....2 closed accts close together?......just trying to understand causes and reasons why it does what it does......thnx .


No, an inquiry would never raise your score.

 

Getting a new account would likely lower your scores: resets age of newest account, lowers average age of accounts, gives you an inquiry.

 

Your thought of getting a loan paying it off quickly and getting a new loan quickly would be terrible for your scores.

 

In FICO scores, the best thing is the passage of time + NOT applying for new credit.  Every time you apply for credit and every time you open a new account you're hurting your scores.


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dunn2500
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Re: inquiries raising score/ alert notifications

i didnt think so, thanks.....just seemed odd, but like you said probably a combination of few small things

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dunn2500
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@SouthJamaica wrote:

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Your thought of getting a loan paying it off quickly and getting a new loan quickly would be terrible for your scores.

 

 


this is what happened, it wasnt a strategy for scores ......I needed a bigger truck and I had oppurtunity to not take a loss, but this would be a reason for huge loss in points?

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Anonymous
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Every time you get a new account that lowers your average age of accounts which will lower your score when it crosses thresholds. And when it’s a revolver, it resets your AOYRA and can result in scorecard reassignment, causing a loss of points.

Plus if you paid down the first loan below 10% & it was your only loan you got a nice bonus, so when you paid it off, you lost those points.
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dunn2500
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Re: inquiries raising score/ alert notifications

perfect, thanks..

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