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is there a score change post 2 year app date?

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: is there a score change post 2 year app date?


@gdale6 wrote:

What you are most likely referring to on the 2 year is the belief that a 30 day late will not affect Fico past 2 years.


Which is totally wrong but I digress.

 

Well actually to be specific: a 30D late is a scorecard segmentation device, and that counts the entire time that it's on there... if it's there the reason code shows up, and you are in the minor deliquency scorecard.  We don't know what the maximum score is on this scorecard but it probably isn't an 850... I know it's higher than we think but I'd be stunned and amazed if it went above 820-830.

 

And for 60D, which there was that other urban myth that they no longer counted after 5 years, likewise just bad mythology: serious deliquency / derogary scorecard all 7 years.




        
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gdale6
Moderator Emeritus

Re: is there a score change post 2 year app date?


@Revelate wrote:

@gdale6 wrote:

What you are most likely referring to on the 2 year is the belief that a 30 day late will not affect Fico past 2 years.


Which is totally wrong but I digress.

 

Well actually to be specific: a 30D late is a scorecard segmentation device, and that counts the entire time that it's on there... if it's there the reason code shows up, and you are in the minor deliquency scorecard.  We don't know what the maximum score is on this scorecard but it probably isn't an 850... I know it's higher than we think but I'd be stunned and amazed if it went above 820-830.

 

And for 60D, which there was that other urban myth that they no longer counted after 5 years, likewise just bad mythology: serious deliquency / derogary scorecard all 7 years.


Really, had no idea on that 30 D, I did know that 60s can affect all 7 years they are there and 90+ definitely do. That 30 day info is still being broadly broadcast in RYC. Will have to counter that now when I see it. Thx.

Message 12 of 16
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: is there a score change post 2 year app date?


@gdale6 wrote:


Really, had no idea on that 30 D,...


100% true.  There have been a bunch of data points in the last 6 months on this forum of people referencing the falling off of a final [only] 30D late at or around the 7 year mark and almost everyone reported a score gain on average of 35-40 points.  I think on the low end maybe 28 or 29 points were reported and on the high end perhaps 45 or 47 was the max I've seen.  So yes, with absolute certainty 30D lates adversely impact score for the full 7 years, even if the majority of the [initially] lost points were returned within (say) the first 2 years.

Message 13 of 16
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: is there a score change post 2 year app date?


@gdale6 wrote:

@Revelate wrote:

@gdale6 wrote:

What you are most likely referring to on the 2 year is the belief that a 30 day late will not affect Fico past 2 years.


Which is totally wrong but I digress.

 

Well actually to be specific: a 30D late is a scorecard segmentation device, and that counts the entire time that it's on there... if it's there the reason code shows up, and you are in the minor deliquency scorecard.  We don't know what the maximum score is on this scorecard but it probably isn't an 850... I know it's higher than we think but I'd be stunned and amazed if it went above 820-830.

 

And for 60D, which there was that other urban myth that they no longer counted after 5 years, likewise just bad mythology: serious deliquency / derogary scorecard all 7 years.


Really, had no idea on that 30 D, I did know that 60s can affect all 7 years they are there and 90+ definitely do. That 30 day info is still being broadly broadcast in RYC. Will have to counter that now when I see it. Thx.


You should hang out here more often bud!

 

Either that or I should've been hanging out in RYC a lot more haha.




        
Message 14 of 16
jamie123
Valued Contributor

Re: is there a score change post 2 year app date?

Back to OPs question...

 

A couple of times in my credit rebuilding I did have a period where my AaYA aged over 2 years. If I remember correctly, I did pick up a few points each time that it happened.

 

EDIT: I have pretty young credit. Oldest account is 7 yrs 3 mos. Newest account is 2yrs 6 mos. AAoA= 4 yrs 8 mos.

 

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10 CCs

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Starting Score: EQ 653 6/21/12
Current Score: EQ 817 3/10/20 - EX 820 3/13/20 - TU 825 3/03/20
Message 15 of 16
Anonymous
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Re: is there a score change post 2 year app date?

That's a bummer, my BCE become 2 on the 11th. Was hoping for a 2 pt increase. lol

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