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morganirish
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when do good accounts fall off?

one of my oldest accts on my cr was opened in 2003.  An auto loan paid of in 2008 and close.   I believe it is 10 years, but is it 10 years from the date I opened it or 10years from when it closed?  

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MarineVietVet
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Re: when do good accounts fall off?


@morganirish wrote:

one of my oldest accts on my cr was opened in 2003.  An auto loan paid of in 2008 and close.   I believe it is 10 years, but is it 10 years from the date I opened it or 10years from when it closed?  



It's generally 10 years from the closing date but some will drop off a bit early and a lucky few have older accounts continue to report past that 10 year period.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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morganirish
Regular Contributor

Re: when do good accounts fall off?

That is the answer I was hoping for.  Thank you.

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Booner72
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Re: when do good accounts fall off?

Hi there - some of my accounts do not list the date the account was closed.  How would you figure that out?

STARTING: 11/24/10 EQ-584 EXP-648 TU04-595
CLOSED FIRST HOME 8/19/11 EQ-630 EXP-691 TU04-653
CURRENT: EQ-701 EXP-??? TU08-720
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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

Re: when do good accounts fall off?


@Booner72 wrote:

Hi there - some of my accounts do not list the date the account was closed.  How would you figure that out?



And you're looking at full reports? Not third party reports? I'm not sure what to tell you. I guess you could always call the creditor and ask when the account was closed.

 

What type of accounts are you talking about?

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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RobertEG
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Re: when do good accounts fall off?

The practice of deletion of closed accounts by the CRAs is not addressed under the FCRA or federal regulations other than under section 628, and thus there is no specific date.  Theoretically, they should never be deleted.  However, the CRAs, for their own purposes, have enacted procedures to delete old accounts after a period of time that THEY consider to be appropriate.

What they seem to consider "appropriate" is a time after which they no longer have the responsibility to monitor a consumer's credit file in order to calculate when derogs can no longer be included in credit reports they issue.  The CR exclusion periods under the various paragraphs of FCRA 605(a) range from 7-10 years (with the exception of tax liens, which if unpaid, can be reported forever).  Those periods curiously coincide with the normal deletion dates used by the CRAs, giving credence to the conclusion that they delete when they no longer have statutory obligations, ignoring the detrimental effect on consumers that can result from such deletions.

Under FCRA 628, the federal banking agencies were required to have initiated rulemaking on the subject of disposal of credit report information back in 2005, but to my knowledge, no such rules have been proposed, let alone enacted.

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TravellingNomad
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Re: when do good accounts fall off?

is the countdown starting when the accounts were closed or paid in full?

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MarineVietVet
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Re: when do good accounts fall off?


@TravellingNomad wrote:

is the countdown starting when the accounts were closed or paid in full?


The countdown starts for any type of account on the closing date because some accounts (credit cards for example) can be paid off but not closed.

 

 

 

From a BK years ago to:
EX - 3/11 pulled by lender- 835, EQ - 2/11-816, TU - 2/11-782

"Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they've made a difference. The Marines don't have that problem".

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TravellingNomad
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Re: when do good accounts fall off?


@MarineVietVet wrote:

@TravellingNomad wrote:

is the countdown starting when the accounts were closed or paid in full?


The countdown starts for any type of account on the closing date because some accounts (credit cards for example) can be paid off but not closed.

 

 


 

ok that makes sense.  thanks!

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morganirish
Regular Contributor

Re: when do good accounts fall off?

In response to Booner looking for closed dates:

 

I went by the last reported date and then under Descriptions it says closed.  This is for an auto loan that was from 2003 that I paid off in 2008.  It is a perfect and older account so I was nervous about it coming of my report. 

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