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3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

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3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

We have seen score change alerts in limited numbers, but they are based on balance changes or inquiries/new tradelines. How is the system going to account for negative entries removed?

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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

All of my FAKO scores have gone up 14-20 pts in the past 5 days due to negative accts. being deleted. No owrd form myFico 3 Bureau Monitoring. I expect 3 more to be deleted this week which is prob another 14 points or even more. This will prove that the model is not truly score driven as advertised, I think it is time to explore attorneys.

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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

Update.  Transunion is completely clean and free of 6 medical collections. 45 point increase in score over past 10 days on USAA monitoring. No increase whatsoever from myFico. CreditKarma up 13pts last week with one collection left. Will see how that goes this week with the collection gone. I expect another bump with them on Thursday.

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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

I have had thr same issue. Only alerts on myfico from experian and transunion have been balance changes. I successfully removed a large charge off...albeit old but still no score change on myfico.  Credit Sesame has shown an increase of 9 points for this. In reading the forums it appears we may only see scire changes unless we refresh our reports for 42 bucks. I want to have some faith that this will change soon.

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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

This is by design so that we have to pay for report refreshes. My CreditKarma Transunion score matched the score that USAA and Barclays gave me last week after most of the collections came off. My CreditSesame was within a couple of points of USAA as well. I can't count Equifax because they still have not removed many of these derogatory lines. I can tell you that my mortage broker did a rescore today comparing it to 3 weeks ago and there was a 20 point increase on the average score.

 

The whole premise that "daily scores" are monitored was a lie from the get go. If you read through all of the forum info and the replies from myFico, the score driven model isn't even possible the way they are doing it. They are monitoring based on nothing but balance changes, new accounts, and inquiries. If I were to pay big bucks to refresh my reports with them, I would see anywhere from 15 to 40 point increases in myFico scores. They have denied my BBB request for a refund and I have rebutted. They have until tomorrow to comply or the complaint will go live for viewing on the BBB site. Who knows what they will choose to do, but they have lost a customer for life.

 

When I have something questionable on my USAA monitoring, I can call them and get a courtesy refresh of all 3 reports for free. They have given me 3 refreshes just this month because I explained to them that I had letters from collection agencies promising to delete info. Each week for the last 3 weeks, I have offered to pay for a refresh ($12.95) and they gave them to me for free. Furthermore, they say "Sir, if the collection info is still showing, we can give you another courtesy refresh next week for being a valued customer". Now that is customer service and has earned my loyalty. When this whole ordeal started and I figured out that myFico was screwing the pooch, I asked them for a courtesy refresh and they replied "We don't do that without a fee". These people are money sucking greed mongers who know absolutely nothing about customer service. I personally sell between $20 to $25 Million worth of goods per year in the CPG industry and literally make my living by providing customer service to both my clients and customers (Yes, I am a broker).  No one at myFico can teach me a damn thing about customer service. To add insult to injury, they are charging $19.95 per month for something that CreditKarma provides for free and does a hell of a lot better job in the process.

 

If it weren't for the seemingly many legions of myFico fanboys, they would be doomed, and deservedly so. Somehow though, it seems everyone is overflowing with patience and understanding for these unscrupulous morons. Personally, I wish them nothing but failure for the way that I and others have been treated. They should be happy that I am not wealthy or I would start the class action lawsuit myself. Do yourself a favor. File a BBB complaint to get a refund and go on over to USAA for their Experian 3 bureau monitoring service at $12.95 per month. You get brand new scores along with all 3 reports every 30 days and the customer service is second to none.

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dadistro
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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

Any update?
As of Oct 2014
683 Equifax
616 Transunion (although Credit Karma has a higher score for me with all accounts actually reflected)
704 Experian

Goal is to get to 700 across the board
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Anonymous
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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

No, they never replied to my BBB rebuttal so tomorrow my complaint will be out there for the world to see. I think this is great, even though I'm screwed out of my money. At least people who have the intelligence to check out BBB will see what kind of business this once reputable company is now conducting. I am also going to resume my daily Facebook campaign where i post my "Buyer Beware" message on a daily basis. I stopped this for a while thinking that they would put a good faith foot forward and refund my money as a result of the BBB complaint. I was wrong obviously so now I will continue this until I get tired of the effort. It could take days, weeks or months. Face it, they are hurting for money on this and know that the product is flawed. They have changed their website sales pitch and have worded the functionality much differently than it was 3 months ago. I stand by my accusation. Even now, they claim to monitor daily for score changes. It's a game of semantics really. While they do monitor score changes, they really aren't monitoring for score changes. They are monitoring for triggers that result in score changes. New accounts, balance changes, inquiries, etc. Someone like me could have 6 negative accounts removed, resulting in a score change of 20-40 points or more, and they will never catch it. So to my point, it is not based on actual score changes, but rather specific triggers that cause them. I suppose one needs to be a lawyer to conclude that after reading their web page advertisement without thoroughly analyzing the "fine print". It will catch up to them eventually. In the meantime, I am done with these pricks and will steer as many people away as I possibly can. For the time being, CreditKarma is the best thing going to monitor true changes, even if it is only on a weekly basis and only for TU. BUT, TU is known for being slow on updates so if CK shows a TU change, it is a good indication that your other bureaus have probablly changed as well. So for me, the USAA 3 bureau monitoring is still the best deal when it comes to paying for a service. If you are not eligible for USAA, the service is 3rd party powered by Experian so perhaps Experian has something similar with another 3rd party vendor.

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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

The Facebook campaign has resumed, check out their FB page. It would have been so much easier to refund my money. I figure this will cost them at least several customers per day. If that number is only 5, that is 150 sales per month x $60 = $9000. That $19.95 probably seems like a smaller number now. Reap what you sew you morons!

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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?

So now there is no BBB resolution, yet the BBB is not posting my complaint against myFico. Does anyone know of a Government agency to turn to next? I have emailed the BBB to ask them why my complaint is not posted. They never even replied after the 10-22 deadline that myFico had to respond. I can't help but wonder what forces are at work here.

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_sidhe_
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Re: 3 Bureau: How can it account for score changes due to deletions?


@Anonymous wrote:

So now there is no BBB resolution, yet the BBB is not posting my complaint against myFico. Does anyone know of a Government agency to turn to next? I have emailed the BBB to ask them why my complaint is not posted. They never even replied after the 10-22 deadline that myFico had to respond. I can't help but wonder what forces are at work here.


Maybe contact your state attorney general's office to see of they have a consumer protection division?  Or maybe California's attorney general? I know my state attorney general has this division,  but I don't know if that's a universal thing or not. It's worth a shot to see, though. 



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