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Anonymous
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Paystubs

When applying for an auto loan, how many paystubs do you have to show to the lender? I just started a new job this month and need a newer car but I don't want to apply too soon.
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randomguy1
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Re: Paystubs

Depends on the lender. Your best bet is to ask.

 

BMWFS never asked me for Paystubs nor did Capital One. I stated over 100k (truthfully).

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Anonymous
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Re: Paystubs

Whether you need paystubs at all usually depends on your credit score and the lender. If you have prime + credit, you probably won't need to show any. The bigger issue may be length of employment - some lenders require a minimum of 6 months, so you may have to show paystubs from your previous employer or your 2018 W2.

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pinkandgrey
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Re: Paystubs

I have bought 3 cars. When I bought all of them, my income wasn’t very high and my credit history was fairly short. At one point, I had just started a new job. I was never asked for income verification or paystubs. 

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Jannelo
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Re: Paystubs

Cap One never asked me for proof of income when I brought a car back in April through their Auto Navigator program..

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CCrew
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Re: Paystubs

Interesting on others responses, as I have decent (740'ish) scores and wife is near 800's but is a homemaker with no income. I've never been NOT asked for a paystub in the past few years. That said it may be because my income is well over the $100k mark which is kind of unusual for the area I live in. 

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randomguy1
Valued Contributor

Re: Paystubs


@CCrew wrote:

Interesting on others responses, as I have decent (740'ish) scores and wife is near 800's but is a homemaker with no income. I've never been NOT asked for a paystub in the past few years. That said it may be because my income is well over the $100k mark which is kind of unusual for the area I live in. 


Interesting indeed. I think part of it depends on job title as well. I have heard sales or commissioned based jobs they are more likely to ask.

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Anonymous
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Re: Paystubs

A lender has many variables to consider when deciding wether or not to stipulate for proof of income on an auto loan:

 

-If you have comparable past credit they are less likely to stipulate for POI, because you obviously have a history of making a similar payment well.

-LTV ratio, if the LTV ratio is low this poses less risk to the lender and they may be willing to look past POI on the basis of the loan being rather safe in the event of default (ie: buying a car that retails for 20k, for 18k and putting 8k down would make the LTV 50% if based off retail value.)

-Lender's often use data systems such as theworknumber, or other payroll services such as ADP, lender's pay a subscription to these companies, and when the credit application is sent to the lender they will automatically have access to employment/income information which allows them to review/verify date of hire, and YTD income without needing you to physically submit a copy of your POI.

-DTI/PTI limits based on stated income, let's say that your credit application states you are a software developer for google with a stated income of 150k a year, and your PTI/DTI limits are well within guidelines, they can assume based on your job position that you probably, in fact, make that kind of money don't feel the necessity to see it for themselves.

 

Then you have outlier's like Santander, who often don't stipulate for POI even if many of these condition's aren't met, simply because they are banking on you being able to afford and pay for the loan they give you, with the reward to them being a high ROI in the form of an exceptionally high APR.

 

My personal opinion on the matter would be, I wish every lender would stipulate for POI on every loan regardless of these factor's, auto loan's are a high risk loan often financed for way too long, with little to no down payment, on a depreciating asset that are prone to mechanical failure. I think lender's are potentially setting people up for failure, without requesting this kind of documentation before extending credit. This of course is just my two cent's, and I am sure there are many people who oppose this.

 

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