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tpayne105
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downpayment help

Hello all.  I haven't posted here in a while but I know what great help one gets here! 

 

Here we go:

 

I purchased a nice 2002 Chrysler Sebring Convertible this past July with cash.  The idea was to have NO car payment and use keep rebuilding my credit.  My scores average out to 515-535 now.  (they were lower).  Naturally, I was rear-ended two weeks ago and the car was totalled.  I have received a $5,000 check from the lady's insuance company and could use that or part of that as a downpayment. 

 

I can buy a new car using some or all of that $5000 or part of it.  My question is...with those scores, I know it's hard to get a good loan but with a larger downpayment, will that help me get a rate that is decent?  I have paid off all past cars, etc....

 

I know there are many factors but the bottom line question is:  Can a large (at least 15-20%) downpayment help offset low credit scores in general? 

 

I appreciate your help....

 

Thanks

 

Todd

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Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: downpayment help

A large enough downpayment will offset just about anything.  30% as an example pays for the depreciation of the vehicle by years, and if you flake during that time, the bank just turns around and sells your car for a profit.  20% is probably reasonable for what you're trying to accomplish.

 

I put 12k down on a 32k OTD price on a used vehicle with an Auto EX pull of 551 and got financed... being nearly a thin file, with no auto loan history, no installment loan / mortgage, one revolving credit line, and a massively nasty albatross that would still stink up the joint even if I had bulletproof credit otherwise.  

 

I hit pretty much every possible extra special bonus round in terms of stupid credit with the exception of no BK and still got financing: I highly doubt you're looking at the same issues I had, especially as it's going to be on a lower note from your descriiption and you've carried a car loan or two to term sucessfully... and new cars are easier to finance regardless.  The APR is likely to be ugly, but that's where we get stuck for being high risk borrowers... and the only way to get out of that is to bite the pillow, make the payments, and improve the score as a result (and refi when possible!).

 




        
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pizzadude
Credit Mentor

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Yes, putting 20% down will go a long way towards helping you get financed.    You may not qualify for a great rate, but it will still get you out the door approved....

 

March2010 FICO® ~ 695 TU, 653 EQ, 697 EX
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Booner72
Senior Contributor

Re: downpayment help

I think OP's question was whether a big down will help the interest rate.  I believe that it wont and I think you might have to get a cosigner or bite the bullet and pay high interest.  The good thing is, you aren't looking for that big of a loan so you can pay that thing of ASAP if you do choose to go w/ financing.

 

Have you spent time over on the rebuilding forum to figure out why your score is so low, and what you need to do to get it to start going up?  if not, I highly suggest you do.;  I would recommend you sign up for ScoreWatch so you can see your EQ report, and FICO's report on what is helping/hurting your score.  Just be sure that if you don't like SW that you cancel within 10 days, otherwise the subscription is a min of 3 months.  I personally could never have done what I did to my credit scores w/o SW's help.

 

So good luck!!

STARTING: 11/24/10 EQ-584 EXP-648 TU04-595
CLOSED FIRST HOME 8/19/11 EQ-630 EXP-691 TU04-653
CURRENT: EQ-701 EXP-??? TU08-720
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Revelate
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Re: downpayment help


@Booner72 wrote:

I think OP's question was whether a big down will help the interest rate.  I believe that it wont and I think you might have to get a cosigner or bite the bullet and pay high interest.  The good thing is, you aren't looking for that big of a loan so you can pay that thing of ASAP if you do choose to go w/ financing.

 


 

Ah, I may have misread - it should help the rate absolutely, for several reasons:

 

- It reduces the amount you need financed: this reduces the lender's exposure.

 

- You're putting skin in the game too, if you flake, the lender takes the car (the loan is secured against your title after all) and that downpayment is just wasted cash.  Take any risk analysis you want, it's statistically certain that the people are less willing to welsh on their own money than someone else's.

 

- It pushes the depreciation of the vehicle out by some period of time from the bank's perspective - the depreciation comes out of the downpayment first effectively.  Again if you flake, the lender repossess the car, and they go sell it.  They lose either a) less money, b) no money, or c) GAIN money (profit!) based on how much your downpayment was... basically whatever is left of the note vs. the actual value of the car at the time you stop making payments, or at least what they can get for it at auction.

 

@For all these reaons the bank is going to be more willing to fund your loan than not the more you put down: that *should* directly lower your rate as it's a less risky bet for the bank to take.  It may not for every lender to the same extent (and some are @#$(#$*@ to begin with), which is why it pays to shop around for an auto loan.

 

 

 

 




        
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