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Hello all,
First off, I’d like to say how much I’ve learned from this site and I appreciate any insight to my questions.
I recently filed for Ch. 7 BK on 12/22/2016. I included by student loans and was planning on filing an adversary complaint to attempt to discharge them. Would it be more beneficial to my credit if I attempt a repayment plan and actually pay off the loans OR should I attempt to discharge and in the event that it is discharged, start to rebuild credit without any open accounts on my credit?
By way of background, I attended Keiser University for a few semesters in 2012 but never graduated. I have a total of $9k in student loans from the federal government. I am a single mother (5 year old and another one on the way) and my job has nothing to do with what I was studying (especially since I never finished getting my bachelors). I made a few payments but made some bad choices and decided not to continue.
I work with attorneys’ and they have reviewed my case and say that I have a pretty good chance that I could get them discharged – however, I’ve been reading a lot about the importance of payment histories and length of the accounts being open.
Again, thank you for any insight.
In my opinion, repaying they student loans would have a minimum impact on your credit, and certainly not $9k worth. The biggest impact on you credit will be having the BK7 on your credit report for 10 years, and all negative accounts (the one you included in BK) on you report for 7 years. The bigger impact on your credit reports will be how you handle new credit after BK - making all your payments on time, and minimizing the amount of debt to credit limit - debt under 10% of your credit limits is the best for mazimizing your credit scores post BK.
I too,had student loans IIB. I thought that Student Loans were exempt from bankruptcy?
Can you give an attorney recommendation for student loans? I contacted an attorney who said the fee for an adversary proceeding is like $10,000 for his attorney fee to try to include student loans and he said it is almost impossible in all cases - although he has done it before and is actively trying in one case.
I filed bankruptcy January 2017. My 341 meeting is March 6th.
I will be 62 this year and plan to quit my job and file for disability later. It will take a long time to get it and thereby prove disability from their letter.
I'd like to file the adversary complaint and believe I have a strong chance of winning. My attorney thinks I have a better chance after I quit my job. I owe $40K in student loans. Either judging 4 years of income or no income, it would never be possible to repay.
Does anyone know how late after filing I can file the adversary complaint? Can I file it as an addendum after discharge?
@tonikitchen wrote:
I'm currently in BK 13 with student loans. My lawyer specializes in student loans in court. That's why I chose him. However, he said it's very hard to get them discharged. You have to be in dire needs to get them discharged. Federal loans I don't think you can. They will just place in deferment. I have $40k in federal and $120k in private. My federal loans immediately went into deferment. My goal is to come out BK and pay those through an income based plan. Now my private loans, I'm trying to get those discharged. Navient hasn't been willing to negotiate prior to BK. So I'm on a 0% plan for 3 yrs.
But federal loans have so many options for you. I'm a single mother of 4 children. So I can relate. You should try the income based plan, or send them your tax return and request a hardship deferment. I did that and they granted me a 2 year deferment.
But based on your post, there are alot of people walking around with degrees or college education not working in their field. That's no reason to try to get out of paying the loans. You chose that field to study. Now if you simply don't have the income to cover your living expenses anfor pay student loans, ok I can understand that.
But federal loans are not dischargeable from what I understand. Check out the options offered with those programs first.
That statement is most likely untrue, it's very hard to get them discharged but showing proper hardship it may work for you. With Federal, if you fall past due w/o BK they can either garnish wages or take it out of your Fed tax refund (if you're expected to receive one).
People are surprised that federal student loans can actually be included in bankruptcy and if they meet certain circumstances and situations the loans can be discharged. Even the Department of Education makes this statement:
This is not an automatic process—you must prove to the bankruptcy court that repaying your student loan would cause undue hardship.
If you file Chapter 7 or Chapter 13 bankruptcy, you may have your loan discharged in bankruptcy only if the bankruptcy court finds that repayment would impose undue hardship on you and your dependents. This must be decided in an adversary proceeding in bankruptcy court. Your creditors may be present to challenge the request. The court uses this three-part test to determine hardship:
- If you are forced to repay the loan, you would not be able to maintain a minimal standard of living.
- There is evidence that this hardship will continue for a significant portion of the loan repayment period.
- You made good-faith efforts to repay the loan before filing bankruptcy (usually this means you have been in repayment for a minimum of five years).
Your loan will not be discharged if you are unable to satisfy any one of the three requirements. If your loan is discharged, you will not have to repay any portion of your loan, and all collection activity will stop. You also will regain eligibility for federal student aid if you had previously lost it
jalinoliveira12 wrote: I recently filed for Ch. 7 BK on 12/22/2016. I included by student loans and was planning on filing an adversary complaint to attempt to discharge them. Would it be more beneficial to my credit if I attempt a repayment plan and actually pay off the loans OR should I attempt to discharge and in the event that it is discharged, start to rebuild credit without any open accounts on my credit?. . . I work with attorneys’ and they. . . say that I have a pretty good chance that I could get them discharged. . .
Something is wrong with this picture. You are telling us that, according to your attorney, you "qualify" for a hardship discharge under 11 USC 523(a)(8), which, by the way, is extremely hard to prove. At the same time you suggest that you have the ability to pay the loans so that you can reestablish your credit. Clearly there is no hardship if you are even worrying about paying the loans just so that you can get future credit. Based upon your post I highly doubt you are going to "win" a 523(a)(8) adversary.
Before you spend money on that attorney you need to do some sole searching. Do you really have a hardship? If "yes" then move forward and ask yourself why you even care about your credit report at this time. If "no" then use the money you were going to pay that attorney with to pay the student loan.
Des.
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Yes to this. I paid mine through my BR13 because I borrowed the money. And no I am not using any of that in my current job, nor have I or will ever...
I understand that not all courts, though most, use the Bruenner test of hardship. Even then, some are pulling away from using the test and granting leniency when they see the need.
I don't have the data handy and forget the terminology, but I do understand that New Hampshire is one of those judicial districts that does not use the Bruenner test of hardship.