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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....

All you people chastising the OP need to back off. People on this forum forget that the average person doesn't think about credit like we do. They're offered 10-30% off their transaction whether they're approved or not, so they apply. If they shop at a store a lot, they apply.

 

@Anonymous there's nothing wrong with having store cards. If you shop there and can take advantage of the specials, then apply. Not everyone is gonna make a spreadsheet to maximize their rewards return. A couple of examples are the Target and Kohl's cards. Target is 5% instant cash back all of the time and the Kohl's cash adds up quickly depending how often you shop there. My last pair of Ray-Bans were cheaper at Kohl's than if I had used my Amex offers. Don't let others deter you. Do what makes sense for you.

 

As for your original question, that's a huge number of approvals in a short period of time. I'm going to echo what others have said and say to wait for at least a year to apply. Also, like mentioned above, you may want to look at the normal Amazon card. You basically get the same rewards except for whole foods. It will grow faster and you don't need to worry about additional hard pulls just to get credit limit increases.

    
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Anonymous
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Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....

Thank you so much for posting that. I never had any credit cards expect one with capital one when I was 18 now I’m 28 and building my credit and trying to learn as much as possible. All of my cards are paid in full every month and I’ve never had any late payments or missed payments. I’m managing all of my cards very well but I wish I wouldn’t have went card crazy lol. I use almost every card monthly except Kay’s and Helzberg . Those two I probably will only use 2-3 times a year. I’ll probably wait a year and apply for amazon store card. My credit score has went up even more and my income is 60k a yr so I should be able to get it if I don’t apply for more cards Thanks again for your post ❤️.
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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....


@Anonymous wrote:
Thank you so much for posting that. I never had any credit cards expect one with capital one when I was 18 now I’m 28 and building my credit and trying to learn as much as possible. All of my cards are paid in full every month and I’ve never had any late payments or missed payments. I’m managing all of my cards very well but I wish I wouldn’t have went card crazy lol. I use almost every card monthly except Kay’s and Helzberg . Those two I probably will only use 2-3 times a year. I’ll probably wait a year and apply for amazon store card. My credit score has went up even more and my income is 60k a yr so I should be able to get it if I don’t apply for more cards Thanks again for your post ❤️.

Not a problem. What they're saying isn't wrong. You can earn better rewards with other cards that are open loop and can be used anywhere, but that's assuming you never carry a balance and, you're willing to learn and play the rewards game. My wife isn't. I made suggestions and it wasn't for her. She's happy using her Ulta, Old Navy, and Nordstrom cards. There's nothing wrong with that.

    
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Anonymous
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Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....

Same here. Thanks again.
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Anonymous
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Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....

I’ll echo what was said about store cards that reward you and are for stores where you shop. I have several store cards, some of which will likely go away (ironically including Target, despite how often we shop there and a not-bad $3k CL, but that’s because the same rewards for the credit card are also offered on their debit card which I also have). Kohl’s is a keeper for sure. Like Brian said, stacking the discounts on top of their sales makes for huge savings. Getting my daughter a $48 dress for $14.97 out the door due to an in-store sale, plus an extra discount through the card, and the use of Kohl’s Cash earned from purchases? I’ll take that all day, every day. Having 3 kids of school age, I’d be an idiot to get rid of that. Likewise, I have a Victoria’s Secret card since my wife and oldest daughter (almost 16) love Pink, and since our spend has elevated us to their highest tier (not that hard to do), the discounts and gift cards they send make that store no more expensive than a regular department store. They practically throw money at us. About every 8 weeks I’ll get a $20 gift card in the mail from them, and for the body sprays my girls love, getting cardholder invites to get them for $3.99 instead of $18 before non-cardholders get access and clean out the stock is valuable. That one also is a keeper. Lowe’s for the 5% instant discount is hard to beat too. For other places, I’ll use Amex or Disco, but for those stores, the cards are well worth having.

Take the time to garden, let the reports cool and the inquiries drop, and use this time to read, read, read. Search the Credit Cards subforum for stores you’re interested in or major card issuers friends have and like, and familiarize yourself with the benefits and costs. Consider where you shop most and figure out if those places offer rewards on their own cards that significantly exceed the rewards you can get from a general spend major bank card. If so, by all means go for it next year, and if it’s a marginal difference, then perhaps you’re better off using a major instead, foregoing the small reward benefit in exchange for having a major card that can more broadly earn rewards for you.
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....


@Anonymous wrote:
Hello, Im super sad I’m always denied when applying for an Amazon credit card. I received my first card in March and now I have so many inquiries (atleast 20 on all TU,EQ not sure about EX ) I can’t get approved for the card I really want (Amazon credit card). I’ve tried 2x with no luck. How long should I wait before applying again? Around what credit score is needed or will I have to wait years since my inquiries are so high?

Here’s the cards I was approved for in the last 3 months.

1.Marvel Mastercard ($1000)
2.Oldnavy Visa ($1600)
3.Barclay Apple Rewards ($1500)
4. Torrid ($250) 8th
5.Capital One Platinum ($500)
6.Kay Jewelers ($2500)
7.Walmart ($1000)
8.Discover ($500)
9.Helzberg ($1501)
10.Ulta ($500)
11.Target ($300)
12.eBay MasterCard ($300)
13.AtHome ($1500)
14.Gap($300)
15.Commerce Bank ($1000)
16.Synchrony Home ($2500)

TU :718
EQ: 708
Ex: 696

You're just going to have to relax and stop applying for things for a good long while. I would say you should wait a year.

 

But if  you're talking about the Chase Amazon card you need to wait 2 years.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

All you people chastising the OP need to back off. People on this forum forget that the average person doesn't think about credit like we do. They're offered 10-30% off their transaction whether they're approved or not, so they apply. If they shop at a store a lot, they apply.

 

@Anonymous there's nothing wrong with having store cards. If you shop there and can take advantage of the specials, then apply. Not everyone is gonna make a spreadsheet to maximize their rewards return. A couple of examples are the Target and Kohl's cards. Target is 5% instant cash back all of the time and the Kohl's cash adds up quickly depending how often you shop there. My last pair of Ray-Bans were cheaper at Kohl's than if I had used my Amex offers. Don't let others deter you. Do what makes sense for you.

 

As for your original question, that's a huge number of approvals in a short period of time. I'm going to echo what others have said and say to wait for at least a year to apply. Also, like mentioned above, you may want to look at the normal Amazon card. You basically get the same rewards except for whole foods. It will grow faster and you don't need to worry about additional hard pulls just to get credit limit increases.


 

That's all great and stuff, except your "average person" may acquire this many cards over the course of 10 years, not three months. 

 

lso, average person is blissfully unaware of potential AA associated with excessive credit seeking. 

Not just AA, but shooting yourself in the leg by applying just because, then not being able to get approved when it actually matters. 

I've been there and so have you. 

 

So, while you did make some great points, OP came here for advice on why they cant get approved for Amazon card, so it's normal and natural for responses to address the reasons, which in this case are excessive applications 

 

As far as store cards go and their rewards, some are really great, but no one really needs a card for every store they ever walked in. 

I would not get a card for a store where I might buy a t-shirt twice a year. 

 

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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....


@Remedios wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

All you people chastising the OP need to back off. People on this forum forget that the average person doesn't think about credit like we do. They're offered 10-30% off their transaction whether they're approved or not, so they apply. If they shop at a store a lot, they apply.

 

@Anonymous there's nothing wrong with having store cards. If you shop there and can take advantage of the specials, then apply. Not everyone is gonna make a spreadsheet to maximize their rewards return. A couple of examples are the Target and Kohl's cards. Target is 5% instant cash back all of the time and the Kohl's cash adds up quickly depending how often you shop there. My last pair of Ray-Bans were cheaper at Kohl's than if I had used my Amex offers. Don't let others deter you. Do what makes sense for you.

 

As for your original question, that's a huge number of approvals in a short period of time. I'm going to echo what others have said and say to wait for at least a year to apply. Also, like mentioned above, you may want to look at the normal Amazon card. You basically get the same rewards except for whole foods. It will grow faster and you don't need to worry about additional hard pulls just to get credit limit increases.


 

That's all great and stuff, except your "average person" may acquire this many cards over the course of 10 years, not three months. 

 

lso, average person is blissfully unaware of potential AA associated with excessive credit seeking. 

Not just AA, but shooting yourself in the leg by applying just because, then not being able to get approved when it actually matters. 

I've been there and so have you. 

 

So, while you did make some great points, OP came here for advice on why they cant get approved for Amazon card, so it's normal and natural for responses to address the reasons, which in this case are excessive applications 

 

As far as store cards go and their rewards, some are really great, but no one really needs a card for every store they ever walked in. 

I would not get a card for a store where I might buy a t-shirt twice a year. 

 


Right, the average person doesn't know any better. But, based on her responses before and after my post, she was not made to feel welcomed. Obviously, we can't tiptoe around the issue if we want to help her, but some things could have been said better. Other than that, most of the advice is solid. 

    
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GApeachy
Super Contributor

Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....


@Brian_Earl_Spilner 


It may have seemed that way, I believe most ppl here are looking out for your best, and I appreciate the way you stepped in front to tone it down a bit. (and they say chivalry is deadSmiley Wink )  @Remedios also made a great point which brought everything back around to OP's originaI question. I have a couple of ?'s concerning OP and others, like myself (mentioned up-post) who did do excessive credit seeking.

They are: 

     Wondering if other than iceing the reports can you off-set some of the credit seeking damage by closing some of the less beneficial cards?  Would that even help? Or would it hurt?  Or....just a pointless idea? 

     I noticed OP has some MasterCards and Visa's, to me they seem like Keepers.  Some store cards have higher limits than others.  If unloading tl's were to be a good idea  and it was up to you to do the culling- which ones would you cull and why?  

My Take Home Pay Don't Take Me Home
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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: 16 cards in 3 months but Always denied....


@GApeachy wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner 


It may have seemed that way, I believe most ppl here are looking out for your best, and I appreciate the way you stepped in front to tone it down a bit. (and they say chivalry is deadSmiley Wink )  @Remedios also made a great point which brought everything back around to OP's originaI question. I have a couple of ?'s concerning OP and others, like myself (mentioned up-post) who did do excessive credit seeking.

They are: 

     Wondering if other than iceing the reports can you off-set some of the credit seeking damage by closing some of the less beneficial cards?  Would that even help? Or would it hurt?  Or....just a pointless idea? 

     I noticed OP has some MasterCards and Visa's, to me they seem like Keepers.  Some store cards have higher limits than others.  If unloading tl's were to be a good idea  and it was up to you to do the culling- which ones would you cull and why?  


I don't think it'll help. If they were a little more established and closing a bunch of accounts while opening a bunch, they could probably recon saying that they were replacing accounts that didn't work for them with ones that would. But Remmy is right, most people open that many cards over a course of years, not 3 months. The accounts are there already, I would just build up the history for a year before closing the ones that don't work.

    
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