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Would any of you happen to know when creditors see updated scores? I’ve been working diligently over the past year to improve my scores and I’m seeing some of the results I’m looking for and would like to start replacing some of my subprime cards with no so….but am finding that I’m not even passing the pre-approval stage…..I’m in no rush and can wait, just like to get an idea as to what the process looks like when working with a scenario like this.
* I asked Grok this question for you. Hope this helps.
Creditors typically see updated credit scores once new information from your financial accounts is reported to the credit bureaus. Here's how this generally works:
**Reporting Frequency:**
Most creditors report to the credit bureaus on a monthly basis, though the exact timing can vary. Some might report at the beginning, middle, or end of the month, and it's not guaranteed that they report to all three major credit bureaus (Equifax, Experian, and TransUnion) simultaneously or at all. Information available from sources like Chase, Equifax, and Capital One indicates that updates can happen anywhere from every 30 to 45 days.
**Billing Cycle:**
Often, credit card companies report your account activity to the credit bureaus around your statement closing date. This means if you've made significant changes to your credit usage or payments, these won't reflect in your credit score until the next reporting cycle after your statement is generated.
**Credit Score Calculation:**
Credit scores are calculated "on demand" when a lender requests them. Therefore, once the credit bureaus have updated your credit report with new information, the next time a creditor pulls your credit for a new score calculation, they'll see this updated information. However, if no one requests your score, it won't be recalculated or updated from the creditor's perspective until someone does.
**Rapid Rescoring:**
In some situations, like when applying for a mortgage, if you've recently made significant payments or changes to your credit profile, you can request a "rapid rescore" through your lender. This speeds up the process, potentially updating your score in just a few days, but it's not a standard practice for all types of credit inquiries.
**Variability:**
There's no fixed day when all creditors update, and some might report more frequently than others, particularly if you have multiple financial products. Therefore, the exact timing when a creditor sees an updated score can vary based on when they last reported to the bureaus and when they next pull your score.
In essence, while creditors generally see updates to your credit score at least once a month due to monthly reporting cycles, the exact timing can depend significantly on your specific creditors' policies and your financial activities. If you're actively managing your credit to improve your score for an upcoming application, be aware that you might need to wait at least a month for changes to reflect unless you're using a method like rapid rescoring.
Thank you. This was very helpful
@shannonharvey wrote:Would any of you happen to know when creditors see updated scores? I’ve been working diligently over the past year to improve my scores and I’m seeing some of the results I’m looking for and would like to start replacing some of my subprime cards with no so….but am finding that I’m not even passing the pre-approval stage…..I’m in no rush and can wait, just like to get an idea as to what the process looks like when working with a scenario like this.
when you submit a request to a pre-approval tool, typically they are going to pull the most up to date report and use that report to request scores, which means the scores are accurate in real-times scores that they are getting
dirty profiles just don't do well in pre-approval tools, which tools are you trying and what cards are you looking to get?
do you have any outstanding derogatory debt on your report still?
I don't have anything specific I'm looking to go after, as my focus is on starting the process of upgrading some of my subprime cards to some that are not. my TransUnion report has a collection that I am working on getting removed, and the other two have a 30 day late that is almost 4 years old.....my Transunion score is 650 and the other two are 715.....
@shannonharvey How recent use the date open as the time frame is the collection account on Trans Union? The places you have tried using the prequal did they use your TU credit report? If they did not the collection account is not the issue. Another option you may want to consider is a credit union. You may have an easier time getting a credit card from them depending on your credit report. If you know of one in your area go in an open a savings account and become a member. Here is a tool that might aid you in your research on credit unions.
https://www.depositaccounts.com/credit-unions/
I would suggest you use the one on the right side. This would give you a person to talk to and could assist you in getting credit card non sub prime. The tool will give you names of credit unions near you click on the name and you can get some basic information and website to explore.
My scores are more advanced with zero derog...high utilization is my cross to bear for the time being. My Amex, Cap1, Citi, Discover, Wells Fargo, Synch and credit Union accounts are fastidious with reporting right after statement closings as in same day or day after. My mortgage reports one month delayed, albeit every month. Subscribing to the myFico 3B service gives me a full report monthly but I see the daily ebb and flow almost real time. Helpful, as feedback is my friend to keep me on track with my cc payoff mission. It feeds my obsessive compulsive disorder but it is necessary for me. I can't change my tiger stripes.
I might suggest an in person meeting with a credit union local to you. Lay it all out for the rep you meet with, the good bad and ugly. Tell them what you are wanting to achieve. My CU (BECU) has been fabulous to deal with and has given me everything and more that I asked for. The rates on all products have exceeded mainstream products (cc Apr is less, personal loan rates are less, savings interest is more). Another idea is selecting a highly useable card (my personal favorite is Amex BCP) with high cash back rewards and just skipping the pre-approval and going for it. This card gives me $95 annual fee waived for first year, 6% on groceries, 3% on fuel (both with annual caps) but makes it a great daily card and easy to track my spending. Make it a spend and PIF card while you continue to pay down existing balances. If denied, the feedback should be valuable for your next attempt at approval. Discover was also generous from day one. My scores were lower than yours when I was approved on that card with 0% for 21 months and the standard 5% cash back on quarterly categories...no annual fee. Again this is with zero derogatory so ymmv as I don't know how they view those negative events. Good luck.