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Hey guys,
First time poster long time lurker. I started following this board about 2 years ago and alot of you folks got me onto the right path regarding my credit. I currently have a 3k limit QS Cap1, a $2250 limit Platinum Preferred Cap1 and a $750 Platinum MC Cap1. I called up cap 1 to see if I could PC to a venture card. My $2250 limit card was eligible to PC to a QS but not a venture. My QS was eligible to PC to a venture card. Does this make any sense?
Basically I had to PC both cards to end up where I wanted too instead of just PCing the one card. Then I combined the 2250 and the 750 to have 2 3k limit cards. Also does any body know if I will receive that Venture card in metal? Since it's a PC I wasn't sure.
The upgrade path is annoying, for sure, but there might be internal reasons for the paths they offer. Check out my post on ABS for starters.
Whenever you get a card, Capital One looks at your credit score and their own internal calculations to decide if you're worthy of packaging into a portfolio to offer to investors. They have many "tiers" of risk/return to offer. They were at the forefront of this madness a long time ago while other conservative banks who use their own money (mostly) would just deny folks without great credit.
The issue here is that once your card is in a 'tranch', it's hard to get out of it -- it's very common for someone who goes from putrid scores to prime scores to be stuck with a putrid card limit because their new fancy scores are helping sell the putrid investment package.
At some point, someone closes a card so there's room in that tranch to move someone else up, so a PC may in fact allow Capital One to take someone out of one group and sell them to another. But it's feasible that an individual borrower may be in two totally different tranches with two cards because of a significant change in their credit score/profile between apps.
So maybe with the Platinum you were in a subprime group but maybe when you got QS you moved to a better one -- and it's possible that with Platinum the card is backed up by investor money while your QS was backed by Capital One's money. So instead of letting you go Platinum -> Venture directly, they wanted to keep your Platinum with the investors (as a QS) but keep your QS with their own money (as a Venture).
No way to tell, you can't demand disclosure on this stuff unfortunately. I've tried writing letters requesting what tranch investment package I am in and no response ever, lol.
Wow awesome response. I never thought of thinking about it like that. I figured they just wanted to make me work for it. I've had these cards for 6 years and they barely ever go up, so here's to hoping I have better luck this time around.
If Capital One isn't your oldest open account, the best results come from a new app completely and then reallocating limits from old cards into the new one. Of course it's a triple inquiry but if your scores are high, inquiries don't really matter much.
There are plenty of folks who recently got CLDs on extremely high limit Capital One cards because they admitted to not using them much. So keep that in mind -- Capital One obviously wants to see you use your limits to some degree, so if you're just limit-chasing, don't expect high limits to last for long.
Yeah both of those cap 1's are my oldest accounts by years. Unfortunately I neglected my credit for a few years. I never had anything delinquent, but I kept close to 100% util for years. Just recently I began paying them down. Finally I am at 43% util but after these statements post in a couple of days I should be under 20% util. Scores aren't terrible. Trans, Ex, Equifax are all hovering around 700. Typically in the 680-710 range.
High utilization is the #1 reason most folks are kept in the 600s if they don't have any baddies, so great work getting it down!
Remember that FICO scores utilization both on aggregate AND on individual accounts. It's important to know what the thresholds are for both so you can manage your utilization paydowns well!
@Anonymous wrote:High utilization is the #1 reason most folks are kept in the 600s if they don't have any baddies, so great work getting it down!
Remember that FICO scores utilization both on aggregate AND on individual accounts. It's important to know what the thresholds are for both so you can manage your utilization paydowns well!
Great info ABCD2199. Thank you
Welcome to the myFICO forums!
I recently had a positive experience with Capital One after a long time of feeling like I would never get any LUV. Long story short, I combined two accounts (Platinum from when I was subprime, and QS1 from when I was average) for a total limit of $4500.
I kept trying for a CLI and finally got increased to $5500. Then I couldn't get any more LUV from them after the CLI to $5500.
I got a mail offer for the Venture card, but figured it wasn't worth the HP for another $5000 SL card. I started reading about Capital One's "tiers" or "tranches", and realized that I was likely maxed out with my SL on those accounts because of when I got them. I decided to give the mail offer a shot just before the expiration date (last week) and got an instant approval for $20,000 with a SUB of 50,000 points after $3000 in spend within the first 90 days.
My TU is my highest at 793, and the other two are 760 and 754, I PIF every month and income is 155,000 with one 30 late about 4 years ago. This was my highest instant approval on a new account ever.
I'd suggest checking the pre-qualified offers section on their website and see if they're interested in giving you a better card. There is no impact to you score to check the pre-qualified list.
I hear you. I had a Cap One QS1 for some years. Irecently did a PC to the QS for no anual fee, and because my scores are a lot higher than when I obtained the QS1. My QS1 had a 4k limit. When PCing to the Quicksilver, my CL didnt increase. I asked for a limit increase and now my Quicksilver is at 4250 CL. I wish I had just applied for a new card instead of the PC. I was told that the limit would stay the same. I have a 21,500 limit on my Discover It and a 9k limit on my CSP. At least I save the annual fee now though. Theres not much I can do with a 4250 CL
I'm surprised no one has even mentioned the upgrade backdoor -- or is that not something we can talk about here? I had a QS1 that had recently (4/17) been upgraded from a Platinum that I just upgraded using ack-bay oor-day to a Quicksilver proper - new card is in the mail.