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Existentialist
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Re: Getting in with Amex?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@morgacj2004 wrote:

Amex is not BK friendly and does not seem to care even if you had a long, perfect payment hx with them and did not include their cards in the BK. I have been told that they blacklist people  for life although I have no idea if that is true. I have no interest in any of their charge cards but would not mind getting the Delta card before the current promotion expires.


It isn't true.


Totally untrue. Sorry, I have to mention it every time I see people say that Amex is not BK friendly. I have been approved for the ED and Delta Gold Sky Miles card in the last 60 days and my BK was only discharged in 2010.


+1. Well not totally "untrue". While Amex will approve you with prior BK, they have, and do, blacklist people. It isn't necessarily for BK, but if you declared BK and included them, they may blacklist you. Really depends on their loss. Obviously a person who cost them 1K is going to be looked at differently than a person who cost them 20K or 50K, etc... 


@Exactly. ^^^^  What needs to be qualified is the point that Amex blacklists based on BK of prior Amex accounts. If Amex wasnt part of past BK then yes... U can possibly be approved @ some future date. But if its an unreconciled Amex account then likelihood is no.... theres no coming back. Could it happen??? Well 'once-upon-a-time' no one thought space travel was possible.... but considering how long it took man to achieve that feat... I wouldnt hold my breath. And yes, the amount is also a factor.

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damnedanddetermined
Established Contributor

Re: Getting in with Amex?

whats the minimum fico score for AE?

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Anonymous
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Re: Getting in with Amex?

Depends on the product. Charge vs credit card, and with Credit card, just depends on the product. Some have lower qualifications than others. Your file has the most to do with it. You could have 720 scores but a BK from 3 year's ago that they decline or a new college kid with a thin file, no derogs, but a 670 score and they'll be approved. So it depends. Hard to recommend without knowing more. 

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ecxpa
Valued Contributor

Re: Getting in with Amex?


@Anonymous wrote:

Depends on the product. Charge vs credit card, and with Credit card, just depends on the product. Some have lower qualifications than others. Your file has the most to do with it. You could have 720 scores but a BK from 3 year's ago that they decline or a new college kid with a thin file, no derogs, but a 670 score and they'll be approved. So it depends. Hard to recommend without knowing more. 


 Just to make things even more confusing they have their own internal scoring system.   I had a hard time getting a revolver from Amex after having  the Green goblin for years but then I got the Delta Gold, recently got the Plenti and BCE.  Certainly, a hard lender to figure out .....I'm sure FICO scores have something to do with it but I was getting denied with Ex 740-750 

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Getting in with Amex?


@SecretAzure wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Hi Guys, 

 

I wanted to ask for some advice on the best gameplan for me to get in the door with Amex, which I'd like to accomplish by the end of 2015. I'm very new to credit, AAoA is 5 months with my oldest at 9 months (BoA in sig) and newest 2 accounts at 3 months old. So far I've been able to PIF on all 3 cards every month since I got them, maintaining below 10% usage when the statement cut on all. I have been attempting to use them all as much as possible, I make less than $35k/year at the moment so I obviously can't be running up crazy charges and expect to PIF. 

 

-The BofA card is the $99/500 secured card, opened September 2014. 

-Cap1 QS1 was originally a $500 limit, requested a CLI this week after the third statement cut and got it to $1,500.

-Discover it was $1,000 limit, requested CLI after third statement cut and went to $1,500 as well. 

 

I was thinking the best course of action would be to keep up what I'm doing with the cards I have and hope the BofA card graduates soon. The 1 year with the BofA card will coincide with 6 months from opening the other two, will that help with the inquiries? I have no loans of any kind, so my only credit experience is with the three cards I have. 

 

Knowing all of this, what should I go for? What does Amex look for? I'm mostly concerned that my lack of credit experience will mean an instant denial from them. Thank you all in advanced for your help, these forums have given me the confidence to do what I've accomplished so far. 


1. I don't think it's really so great to "get in with Amex". I don't see anything special about Amex, and haven't found that having Amex cards has gotten me "in" with them. Basically they wouldn't give me the sweat off their nose, despite my perfect handling of their cards. In the same time that they haven't given me a single CLI, Capital One has rewarded me with CLI's and new cards totalling around $50,000, so I think it's more valuable to be "in with" Capital One.

 

2. The easiest thing to get is one of their charge cards but it's worthless in terms of building credit because it doesn't report to CRA's like a credit card.

 

3. Historically the easiest card to get has been the Delta Gold but I find it virtually useless, and can't get a CLI.

 

4. I find the Jet Blue Amex more useful. At the end of this year JetBlue will be switching to Barclays, but that might mean you get offers from Barclay of the new Jet Blue card plus an offer of an alternative from Amex. So I think the JetBlue card is a decent option.

 

5. At this point I'm guessing their Plenti card is the easiest to get, but I would find the blue cash more useful. I get the impression the everyday card is a little easier to get than the blue cash card.

 

 I think your scores are good enough to give it a go now. My scores were lower when I 'got in with Amex' a year ago. Unfortunately my rising credit scores haven't earned me a CLI in their eyes.


Comparing Amex to Capital One is like comparing apples and tow trucks. They're extremely different in how they operate. Amex and Capital One both accept thin profiles but only Cap1 is lenient with baddies in the not-so-distant past. Amex likes about 1 year of (AAOA) CLEAN history as the above poster mentioned, Cap1 will take just about anybody that hasn't burned them and even sometimes people that have burned them (eventually). Amex is one of the most giving as far as CLI are concerned. If they like how you manage your cards, you can easily make your Amex cards your highest limit cards within 2 years time. I hit max exposure with them with my BCE in 1.5 years of having the card.


I've managed my cards with them perfectly, in the year I've had them, and haven't had a single CLI. I've also managed all my other credit perfectly as well. My credit scores are more than 50 points higher now than when they gave me the cards.


Total revolving limits 741200 (620700 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 703 TU 704 EX 687

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Getting in with Amex?

I can't think of a single reason to prefer Amex to Cap One other than the "prestige".

 

Prestige is meaningless to me.


Total revolving limits 741200 (620700 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 703 TU 704 EX 687

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Anonymous
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Re: Getting in with Amex?

Cap One is AWESOME. I have card's from Cap One, Amex, Chase, Wells Fargo, SDFCU, US Bank, and others and I love my Cap One QS & Venture cards. I love the ease of the rewards and their website. Chase requires HP's for CL increases, Cap One does not. Just another reason to love Cap One. I'll always carry them. They've been great to me.
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Anonymous
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Re: Getting in with Amex?

Hello,

 

New to the forums but just wanted to say I was just approved the other day for Amex BCP. My AAoA is 9 months. The CL they gave me was 2500, the most out of any card i currently have. I only work part-time since returning to college to pursue a degree. Not sure if it helps, but it's something.

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Anonymous
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Re: Getting in with Amex?

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Anonymous
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Re: Getting in with Amex?


@Anonymous wrote:
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Thank you! Smiley Happy

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