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Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?

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CreditCuriosity
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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?


@Anonymous wrote:

@CreditCuriousity wrote:

Login to their site https://www.lendingclub.com/ and it will give you the link right there... I am really curious if you have time..  801 just isn't right for a denial..  I am wondering if it the product I applied for being medical expenses.. I didn't think 15k was a bad amout to ask for, but apparently it was lol.  Can't believe you got denied...  The quoted Innovis as well so maybe that came into play?  I thought I had Innovis locked..  I know it is a SP, but TU is only bureau I don't have locked.. I assume someone can do a SP against your credit even if locked being Innovis?  Need to look through and give them a call to ensure it is on ice.


I checked.  Said 'excessive inquiries'.  Only reason listed


Dumb reason... Still don't understand mine as I don't think a Student Loan and a Car payment being equal to 80k with my income and the terms of the loan as over extended.. Student loan payment is 200ish a month, well car payment is 800ish month and rent is 1k...  so 2k in re-occuring bills when I bring home 7k a month...  So ya their math doesn't work..

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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?


@Anonymous wrote:

@Anonymous Does BofA, Discover and AMEX just pull and give you one score from one bureau like Cap1 and Walmart that pull TU? I heard AMEX pulls only Experian correct?


Yes, but the Cap1 TU is a FAKO score, the Discover is your true TU FICO 08, Amex is your true EX FICO 08, and I'm not sure about BofA cause I don't have one

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Anonymous
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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?

Yes, I know Cap1 is FAKO it's the exact same score/formula as Credit Karma if people didn't know. Walmart is suppose to be your true FICO-08 score.

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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?


@Anonymous wrote:

Yes, I know Cap1 is FAKO it's the exact same score/formula as Credit Karma if people didn't know. Walmart is suppose to be your true FICO-08 score.


Not anymore. The new version of Credit Karma dropped it, and now uses strictly Vantage 3.0.

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Anonymous
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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?

Not for everyone. My two Cap1 scores are identical still with every Credit Karma score I've ever got. Now with CK changing a bunch of things like offering free weekly FAKO Equifax scores things may change. But as of today and my last weekly CK update a few days ago everything is exactly the same as Cap1, not just the scores but everything on the credit report down to my current balances.

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Anonymous
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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?

Everyone who logs in to the new version. You must be logging in to the old version. Use this link for the new:

 

http://bit.ly/1y1Xprc

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Anonymous
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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?

WOW! What just happened! You gave me the double secret probation link and viola! 

 

Does anyone use Vantage Score 3.0 anymore? What was Credit Karma using for a credit score model before?

 

Ok, so before I had a 681 Cap1/Credit Karma score, now with the beta model my TU now says 753 and EQ 751. Smiley Surprised

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?

I found this article about how many of top 10 financial institutions, auto lenders, credit card issuers and mortgage lenders use Vantage Score.

 

http://www.credit.com/credit-scores/vantagescore 

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Anonymous
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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?


@Anonymous wrote:

WOW! What just happened! You gave me the double secret probation link and viola! 

 

Does anyone use Vantage Score 3.0 anymore? What was Credit Karma using for a credit score model before?

 

Ok, so before I had a 681 Cap1/Credit Karma score, now with the beta model my TU now says 753 and EQ 751. Smiley Surprised

 

 


Pretty sure nobody uses Vantage. Now, here's weirdness. My old CK score was also 681, and my new TU score is 754. EQ is only 703, though.

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Anonymous
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Re: Is there a "Real" score I can see before I apply for a card?


@Anonymous wrote:

I found this article about how many of top 10 financial institutions, auto lenders, credit card issuers and mortgage lenders use Vantage Score.

 

http://www.credit.com/credit-scores/vantagescore 


You can ignore that article. It's really just a promo for Vantage.

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