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Synchrony - high limits and total exposure?

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Synchrony - high limits and total exposure?

My Walmart and JCP limits are starting to climb. Walmart went from $1400. in Nov of '14 to $13,000 today.  What is considered a high limit for Synchrony cards? I read that they have a limit for maximum exposure. I keep thinking it's $100K. is that number correct?

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Synchrony - high limits and total exposure?

That is what I've read on this site by some very informed people....total exposure is 100K.  Anything higher requires a manual review.

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Anonymous
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12enjoy is at $100K, and he said that's the top.

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Anonymous
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Anyone else find it funny how you can get 100K in unsecured stuff without verifying income but a house / car / boat / etc make you go through all that work and verification for a loan that could be much less than that.

 

I just do not get it. I would not loan anyone 100K without knowing that they could pay me back. And this whole 2x income...it just does not make sense and I fear this wil take us down another path of financial crisis......

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Anonymous
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@Anonymous wrote:

Anyone else find it funny how you can get 100K in unsecured stuff without verifying income but a house / car / boat / etc make you go through all that work and verification for a loan that could be much less than that.

 

I just do not get it. I would not loan anyone 100K without knowing that they could pay me back. And this whole 2x income...it just does not make sense and I fear this wil take us down another path of financial crisis......


Exposure is not what takes us down a path to financial crisis. Irresponsibility will. People with crazy credit lines have demonstrated that they don't go hog wild with their available credit, overall. Lenders notice the trend when someone appears to be going rogue and will begin to shut them down or drastically reduce credit lines, for protection of the bank's interests. As an example: I personally have $279k in unsecured revolving credit, but my usage is only between 2- 5% of that, reporting to my bureaus, depending on the month. I'm confident that total Utilization reporting consistently as what I have stated doesn't throw up any red flags. Now, if I decide to go out and start maxxing out all my credit cards, it won't take long for that to start reporting to the CRAs as a new trend. They'll would reign me in real quick.

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pipeguy
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@Anonymous wrote:

Anyone else find it funny how you can get 100K in unsecured stuff without verifying income but a house / car / boat / etc make you go through all that work and verification for a loan that could be much less than that.

 

I just do not get it. I would not loan anyone 100K without knowing that they could pay me back. And this whole 2x income...it just does not make sense and I fear this wil take us down another path of financial crisis......


I personally have purchased 3 different boats, an endless number of cars and trucks (okay 50+) and I can't remember ever having to supply bank records or employer verification. Real Estate is different due to state and federal law, a lot of it has to do with the securitization of mortgage-backed securitys, most of those federally purchased and/or guarenteed. After the 2007-09 financial melt down, caused mostly by unqualified purchases (LIAR loans) after the feds decided that "everyone deserved a house" you saw the verification process updated and become much tighter again (this is not a political statement, and I'm not going there, just a cause and effect). 

 

Cars and boats can be repo'd, real estate can too, but its a much more difficult process that usually results in a loss for the lender and creates negitive community repercussions (loss of taxs, loss of tax base, community blight, lower overall community tax values). Short term unsecured lending like credit cards are mostly unregulated in the sense of higher risk equals very high interest rates, very poor terms - think Credit One, First Perimer, et al. Should the feds tighten lending standards having to do with credit cards, probably, but until defaults become a real issue with lender liquidity and the health of the banking industry thats not going to happen (again I'm avoiding discussing the political side of this factor).

 

If you look at the financials of credit card operations, they are highly profitable and they factor in credit losses into their interest rates. CRA's and their scoring are very important for unsecured risk, not as important for secured risk like real estate. The verification process for credit cards is generally automated using computer systems, verification for real estate looks at computer systems/scoring as a prequalifier and then gets more personal. 

 

Note that I have over $260k in credit card availability, untility of 2.79% and I'm rated by the credit reporting agencies as a 2% "risk" - there is no such thing as a zero risk for unsecured debt or even secured debt. Although unpublished, Synchrony Bank has decided that their magic number is $100k in total exposure before they "get personal", that said I can promise you that if you owe Synchrony a high percentage of that number, they will take action quickly to protect their assets (heh) well before you max out the $100k.  

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Creditaddict
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@Anonymous wrote:

12enjoy is at $100K, and he said that's the top.


I too hit the $100k a couple months back (That is the total exposure limit)... I have closed a number of cards to be able to move the limits on a couple of the ones I wanted to keep but closed enough to bring me under $90k for a little room Smiley Happy

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@Creditaddict wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

12enjoy is at $100K, and he said that's the top.


I too hit the $100k a couple months back (That is the total exposure limit)... I have closed a number of cards to be able to move the limits on a couple of the ones I wanted to keep but closed enough to bring me under $90k for a little room Smiley Happy


You must mean "move" right?  As in, you closed/reduced some in order to take a CLI on another account?

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Creditaddict
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Yes
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12njoy
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@Anonymous wrote:

12enjoy is at $100K, and he said that's the top.


I was told by multiple credit solutions reps that 100k is the max exposure for credit limit increases.  If you apply for another card and you're at 100k, you could possibly be approved but you would never be able to get an increase on the new card because you would be at or over 100k.   I was at 100k and applied for the Stash visa and was approved for 3k which at the time brought me to 103k with Synchrony.  I couldn't get an increase on Stash because I was over 100k.  I eventually closed the Stash which put me back at 100k

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