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The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide

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K-in-Boston
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide


@Gregory1776 wrote:

AmEx guy I talked to on the phone last night said that a could request another CLI in December, six months after my account was opened. I thought it would be February, 181 days like you said. Idk...beats me. I'm going to go for it though. 

 

Has anybody else experienced this? 🤔🤔🤔


I am going to assume he didn't look at your other account and was just telling you that you can ask for a CLI after 6 months, not realizing you had one recently on another card.  If you'd read this whole thread (haha), you would clearly have seen that I attempted to test the new account vs all accounts theory with my SPG both after activating it and at the 61 day mark.  Both times resulted in letters stating that American Express requires a minimum of 180 days between credit line increase requests.  (I asked for my first CLI on my Blue card in 15 years around January.)

 

Without question, there has to be more than 180 days between granted customer-initiated CLIs.

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Anonymous
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide

On my 61st day of having the card I called in and ask for a cli to $3k which was 3x's the amount and the rep said it was approved. I tried to do an increase on the other card the sameday and it was denied stating I had to wait 6 months in between increases. I found out recently from reading the forums that others with bk are getting denied for an increase and have to app for another card. Im hoping I can get the second increase in January with no issues.
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Gregory1776
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide


@K-in-Boston wrote:

@Gregory1776 wrote:

AmEx guy I talked to on the phone last night said that a could request another CLI in December, six months after my account was opened. I thought it would be February, 181 days like you said. Idk...beats me. I'm going to go for it though. 

 

Has anybody else experienced this? 🤔🤔🤔


I am going to assume he didn't look at your other account and was just telling you that you can ask for a CLI after 6 months, not realizing you had one recently on another card.  If you'd read this whole thread (haha), you would clearly have seen that I attempted to test the new account vs all accounts theory with my SPG both after activating it and at the 61 day mark.  Both times resulted in letters stating that American Express requires a minimum of 180 days between credit line increase requests.  (I asked for my first CLI on my Blue card in 15 years around January.)

 

Without question, there has to be more than 180 days between granted customer-initiated CLIs.


I tried reading it all, only got to page nine. 😐 anytime I open this thread, for some reason it brings me right back to where I stopped...😂😂😂 

 

Now if I were to try again in December and was denied, would o get a letter saying I need to wait 180 days, or would I have to wait 90 because of the denial? Thanks.  😁



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K-in-Boston
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide


@Gregory1776 wrote:

I tried reading it all, only got to page nine. 😐 anytime I open this thread, for some reason it brings me right back to where I stopped...😂😂😂 

 

Now if I were to try again in December and was denied, would o get a letter saying I need to wait 180 days, or would I have to wait 90 because of the denial? Thanks.  😁


5 pages a day and you'll be caught up before you know it!  Then you can move on to the Navy AR thread.

If you were denied, your letter would just state the reason(s) you were denied and you would need to wait at least 90 days prior to trying again.  There wouldn't be any days listed; you only get those spelled out if you have tried again too early.  (At least I assume you would get a 90 days statement on a denial; I have no experience with that, but I'm sure I'd have a stack of them had I been familiar with the Amex CLI policies years ago.  Maybe enough to rival BrutalBodyShots's stack of 4506-T requests!)

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AverageJoesCredit
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide

I wouldnt trust the CSR s either like olman87 said. Why?, because they are from Chase and that belongs on another thread Smiley Wink
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Gregory1776
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide Discussion Thread


@Anonymous wrote:

Wow. Thanks for this thread. I just got an instant approval for $12,000 on my American Express Cash Blue Everyday card after using the "Increase Line of Credit" button on the Amex website. I went from $4,000 to $12,000. I only had the card for 8 months. I spent about ~$220 monthly and paid the balance in full every month with autopay. My salary is $37,440.

 

My brother who got this same card around the same time I did, requested 3x  CLI ($22,500) but was counter offered $14,100. His salary is $35,360. 

 

I noticed that nagisa on this forum posted:

"Your request for line of credit increase of $20,000 can be approved for $19,700. Your new line of credit would be $19,700." and his salary was $50k.

 

 

From these three data points, I started to see a trend in Amex CLI approval calculation.

 

1) Initial credit limit: $4,000

    Requested credit limit: $12,000

    Approved credit limit: $12,000

    Salary: $37,400

   Approved credit limit / Salary Ratio: 32.1%

 

2) Initial credit limit: $7,500

    Requested credit limit: $22,500

    Approved credit limit: $14,100

    Salary: $35,400

    Approved credit limit / Salary Ratio: 39.8%

 

3) Initial credit limit: $7,600

    Requested credit limit: $20,000

    Approved credit limit: $19,700

    Salary: $50,000

    Approved credit limit / Salary Ratio: 39.4%

 

 

Before my brother submitted the request, I actually guessed that he was going to get counter offered with a limit 40% of his salary and I was right! I feel that if I would have requested a higher limit, I would have got approved.

 

It seems that the gerenal rule is around: 3X CLI but less than ~40% of your salary.

 

 


if this is true, they'll cap me at 14k.... :/



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AverageJoesCredit
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide

Hit the button today requested 9k, or the 3x, was instantly countered at 4.7k.

Took it and ran, lol. Im not gonna complain on my income and spend. Very happy Smiley Happy Feb 2018 see you for my blue cashSmiley Happy
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Anonymous
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide

Nothing wrong with that, AJC!

 

So today I did my request online.  My limit was $35k.  I started at $50k and received the IV prompt, so I kept starting over and backing down my request by $1k increments.  Finally got an instant approval for $40k when I got to that.  I'll take it for a SP.  My last CLI went exactly the same way, with me taking my limit from $30k to $35k, so I'm going to assume at this point that $5k every 6 months is going to be the train I'm on as far as avoiding IV until either my spend or income becomes the constraint to it going any higher.

 

Looking forward to a laugh when I get those 10 denials letters in the mail next week.  10 isn't bad, though, as last time I believe I had 21 denials letters from Amex that all came on the same day.  I wonder what the mail carrier thought, LOL.

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medicgrrl
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide

Congrats on the increases AVJ & BBS!

 

I'm still trying to decide which card and when I want to request...



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K-in-Boston
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Re: The Definitive Amex 3X CLI Guide

Yeah, congrats to you both!  BBS, now you have one hundred and ten 4506-T requests!  Smiley Wink

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