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MarineVietVet
Moderator Emeritus

The higher your score the more nitpicking

My wife requested a CLI on her Discover card and was initially rejected because they couldn't verify employment. We'll call and get that fixed but on the letter was the following. It shows just how scoring will look for just about anything to critique.

 

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The first one makes a little sense. I have two mortgages and the current balances are still pretty high compared to beginning balances.

 

Too many accounts with balances? I have eight open accounts and only three report a balance each month.  Makes you wonder what they want.

 

The oldest account was opened 26 years ago. AAoA of nine years. Youngest account is two years old.

 

I guess I wanted to illustrate to others not to be too concerned with some of the denial reasons you may receive. Do all the right things and you'll be fine.

 

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TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking

Cookie cutter responses are the best.

 

My favorite is "too many inquiries" when they pull a CR that hasn't had an inquiry in 18 months.

FICO8 current as of : 10-20-25 EQ: 736 TU: 728 EX: 722
Hard INQs last 12 months: EQ: 0 | TU: 0 | EX: 0
Verizon Visa $8500 Amex Delta Reserve $10,000 Care Credit $18,000
NFCU CashRewards $7500 Apple Card $7000 Best Buy $8000 Amazon $5000
NFCU auto loan (2022 Ford Bronco Sport Badlands - Cactus Gray) 6.95%
NFCU motorcycle loan (2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide - Alpine Green & Chrome) 9.45%
Total CL: $64,000 --- Total CC UTI: 31% --- AAoA: 6.5 years --- Income: $200k
Last app: 4-6-24
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CreditCuriosity
Moderator Emeritus

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking

They got to list something...that is the best they could doSmiley Happy

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taxi818
Super Contributor

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking


@MarineVietVet wrote:

My wife requested a CLI on her Discover card and was initially rejected because they couldn't verify employment. We'll call and get that fixed but on the letter was the following. It shows just how scoring will look for just about anything to critique.

 

Discover FICO.jpg


 

The first one makes a little sense. I have two mortgages and the current balances are still pretty high compared to beginning balances.

 

Too many accounts with balances? I have eight open accounts and only three report a balance each month.  Makes you wonder what they want.

 

The oldest account was opened 26 years ago. AAoA of nine years. Youngest account is two years old.

 

I guess I wanted to illustrate to others not to be too concerned with some of the denial reasons you may receive. Do all the right things and you'll be fine.

 


Excellent to see this. No reason for denial. But goes to show. Score not everything. 

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chalupaman
Super Contributor

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking


@MarineVietVet wrote:

My wife requested a CLI on her Discover card and was initially rejected because they couldn't verify employment. We'll call and get that fixed but on the letter was the following. It shows just how scoring will look for just about anything to critique.

 

Discover FICO.jpg


 

The first one makes a little sense. I have two mortgages and the current balances are still pretty high compared to beginning balances.

 

Too many accounts with balances? I have eight open accounts and only three report a balance each month.  Makes you wonder what they want.

 

The oldest account was opened 26 years ago. AAoA of nine years. Youngest account is two years old.

 

I guess I wanted to illustrate to others not to be too concerned with some of the denial reasons you may receive. Do all the right things and you'll be fine.

 


Yup. "Too many inquiries" to me usually isn't just the reason why so and so didn't get approved for a card. Usually the very first reason they list on those is the most major factor.

Tradelines: Macy’s - $18k, Penfed Power Cash Rewards - $10k, Ethan Allen (TD Bank) - $5.7k, Kay Jewelers - $5.5k, Appliances Connection - $5.3k, Jared - $5.25k, Best Buy (Citi) - $5k, Dell Preferred Account - $3.5k, Samsung - $3.2k, Firestone CFNA - $3.2k, Capital One Platinum - $3k, Mercury MC - $2.25k, Williams Sonoma - $2.1k, Wayfair (Fortiva) - $2k, Amazon Store Card - $1.8k, Apple Card - $1.7k, NFCU cashRewards - $1.5k, CareCredit - $1.5k, B&H Photo - $1.5k, Adorama - $1.25k, Ebay MC - $1k, Sam’s Club MC - $1k, American Eagle - $1k, Ollo MC - $600, Mission Lane Visa - $500, NY & Company - $500, Walgreens - $500, Home Depot - $500, Target RED Card - $500, CapOne Secured MC 0 AF - $500, Penfed Overdraft LOC - $500

Current FICOS: Mid 640s-50s on all reports, Ch 7 BK D/C Aug 2019
Starting scores: EX - 534, EQ - 574, TU - 516 | Total TLs: $91k approx | Total Utilization: 17%, getting this back down
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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking


@CreditCuriousity wrote:

They got to list something...that is the best they could doSmiley Happy


Very interesting indeed.  Take Nixon's experience with Diners not long ago... they listed "and the kitchen sink" as one of the broad reasons. Smiley Very Happy

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CreditMagic7
Mega Contributor

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking


@CreditCuriousity wrote:

They got to list something...that is the best they could doSmiley Happy


+1

I rest my Discover case from today. Thanks for sharing. Smiley Wink

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PCR20
Regular Contributor

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking

What strikes me is it sounds like they are telling you why your score was too low to qualify, but obviously that can't be right.

 

Discover is just weird, plain and simple.

 

Looking at the signatures/posts around here makes me think they would rather give a high CL and/or a big CLI to someone with a sub 700 score than a +800 score.

 

I had the same problem with mine until I finally gave in and closed it a few days ago in frustration. (I know, AAoA/utilization and all that but I don't care, they ticked me off)

 

I tried several time to get a CLI from my $2K limit, only to get a HP and be told I don't qualify due to “too high of balances” or some other hogwash.

I never carried more that 7% on anything that revolves, and never more than 3 with a balance.

 

Not one to usually go for conspiracy theories, but I think Discover (and Chase Bank) keep some sort of 10+ year blacklist going.

Maybe long ago, in a galaxy far away you said something to them they didn’t care for?


Starting Score: 05/12/2007 was 724 average on all 3
Current Score: 02-10-2017 EQ=839 EX=837 TU=832
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lg8302ch
Senior Contributor

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking


@MarineVietVet wrote:

My wife requested a CLI on her Discover card and was initially rejected because they couldn't verify employment. We'll call and get that fixed but on the letter was the following. It shows just how scoring will look for just about anything to critique.

 

Discover FICO.jpg


 

The first one makes a little sense. I have two mortgages and the current balances are still pretty high compared to beginning balances.

 

Too many accounts with balances? I have eight open accounts and only three report a balance each month.  Makes you wonder what they want.

 

The oldest account was opened 26 years ago. AAoA of nine years. Youngest account is two years old.

 

I guess I wanted to illustrate to others not to be too concerned with some of the denial reasons you may receive. Do all the right things and you'll be fine.

 


Good to see that I am not the only one that gets such interesting explanations.....well whoever gave me too many new accounts has a valid point but the rest I received is simply nonsense.  As  long as it is not a denial I read them  - think about them and for some points have a little fun with them Smiley Happy

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Chaselover
Frequent Contributor

Re: The higher your score the more nitpicking


@MarineVietVet wrote:

My wife requested a CLI on her Discover card and was initially rejected because they couldn't verify employment. We'll call and get that fixed but on the letter was the following. It shows just how scoring will look for just about anything to critique.

 

Discover FICO.jpg


 

The first one makes a little sense. I have two mortgages and the current balances are still pretty high compared to beginning balances.

 

Too many accounts with balances? I have eight open accounts and only three report a balance each month.  Makes you wonder what they want.

 

The oldest account was opened 26 years ago. AAoA of nine years. Youngest account is two years old.

 

I guess I wanted to illustrate to others not to be too concerned with some of the denial reasons you may receive. Do all the right things and you'll be fine.

 


woww!!!!
841 awesome job.


In a committed relationship with Chase from 12/2012.
Age: 26, Income: $59,240/-, Current score: TU from CK: 750/A (12/24/14), TU Vantage score from CK: 775/C (12/24/14), Experian from Creditsesame: 717, Equifax from myfico: 724, Overall Util: 1% (12/24/14), Total credit limits: $62,150, In the garden from 12/19/2014, AAoA : 7 months, Oldest account: 8 months, Newest account: 1 week, HP: 18.
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