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Five6Two
Frequent Contributor

Understanding the "5/24"

I created a spreadsheet to help me keep track of my most recent inq and new accounts (mini app-spree), was wondering if someone can confirm this information for me. Here are a few DPs: Chase Amazon Visa opened 8/17; TD/Robbins Bros opened 3/18; CU Auto Loan opened 5/18, USB REI CC opened 1/19, Amex Ed opened 2/19, Discover It opened 3/19, PenFed Visa opened 3/19 and Marcus PL opened 3/19. 

 

At 5 (credit/charge cards) / 24 (months) until: 08/2019
At 5 (all accounts) / 24 (months) until : 05/2020

 

Extra DPs - using the MPL to refinance high APR CC debt and new Amex & PenFed to split a high BT transfer. Disco is for 5% (10%) rewards and USB REI for summer backpacking expenses. 

 

EDIT: Lol, forgot to ask the question: Are there any cards that I should app for before hitting the garden? I feel like I am set on my rewards and BT, so at this point it would be just for a small SUB, between $500-1000 spend.

 

I appreciate the help!

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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Understanding the "5/24"

Based on the information you provided, personal, auto, student, mortgage loans (and the like) can be excluded from the 5/24 approach.

That being said, it appears you've opened 6 credit card accounts in the span of ~2 years with 3/19 as the most recent.

So, if you're looking for guidance on how soon you can clear the 5/24 hurdle, as it stands to be....wait for it, wait for it.... between 3/2020 and 4/2020 😁
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Five6Two
Frequent Contributor

Re: Understanding the "5/24"


@FinStar wrote:
Based on the information you provided, personal, auto, student, mortgage loans (and the like) can be excluded from the 5/24 approach.

That being said, it appears you've opened 6 credit card accounts in the span of ~2 years with 3/19 as the most recent.

So, if you're looking for guidance on how soon you can clear the 5/24 hurdle, as it stands to be....wait for it, wait for it.... between 3/2020 and 4/2020 😁

Bah! That is what I was afraid of, lol. I guess I can either grab one more for the sake of SUB, head to the garden for 12-13 months or let all of these mature for 24 months...sounds painful Smiley Sad

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FinStar
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Understanding the "5/24"

Sounds like you have a pretty well-rounded portfolio, especially with the recently added new accounts from AmEx to Discover and PenFed.

Is there anything rewards-wise where you see a gap? IMO, unless your profile supports it, I wouldn't add CCs just for the sake of adding them. Your profile, your choice though.
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Anonymous
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Re: Understanding the "5/24"


@Five6Two wrote:

I created a spreadsheet to help me keep track of my most recent inq and new accounts (mini app-spree), was wondering if someone can confirm this information for me. Here are a few DPs: Chase Amazon Visa opened 8/17; TD/Robbins Bros opened 3/18; CU Auto Loan opened 5/18, USB REI CC opened 1/19, Amex Ed opened 2/19, Discover It opened 3/19, PenFed Visa opened 3/19 and Marcus PL opened 3/19. 

 

At 5 (credit/charge cards) / 24 (months) until: 08/2019
At 5 (all accounts) / 24 (months) until : 05/2020

 

Extra DPs - using the MPL to refinance high APR CC debt and new Amex & PenFed to split a high BT transfer. Disco is for 5% (10%) rewards and USB REI for summer backpacking expenses. 

 

EDIT: Lol, forgot to ask the question: Are there any cards that I should app for before hitting the garden? I feel like I am set on my rewards and BT, so at this point it would be just for a small SUB, between $500-1000 spend.

 

I appreciate the help!


If the dates shown are accurate, you'll be under 5/24 on April 1, 2020.

 

I wrote an Excel formula that does this calculation by looking at a date array and comparing it to today's date.  Where the range B2:B26 is the array:

"Under 5/24 on "& TEXT((EOMONTH(EDATE(LARGE(B2:B26,5),24),0)+1),"mmmm d, yyyy")

Of course it can get much more sophisticated if you wanted to filter out installment accounts, etc.

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Five6Two
Frequent Contributor

Re: Understanding the "5/24"


@FinStar wrote:
Sounds like you have a pretty well-rounded portfolio, especially with the recently added new accounts from AmEx to Discover and PenFed.

Is there anything rewards-wise where you see a gap? IMO, unless your profile supports it, I wouldn't add CCs just for the sake of adding them. Your profile, your choice though.

Not really, I was eying a travel rewards card but DW and I only have 2 vacays planned this year and she has enough points to purchase tickets. I plan on using PenFed to cover car rental to help meet the SUB. Thank you @FinStar, I feel confident heading to the garden now. 

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: Understanding the "5/24"


@Five6Two wrote:

I created a spreadsheet to help me keep track of my most recent inq and new accounts (mini app-spree), was wondering if someone can confirm this information for me. Here are a few DPs: Chase Amazon Visa opened 8/17; TD/Robbins Bros opened 3/18; CU Auto Loan opened 5/18, USB REI CC opened 1/19, Amex Ed opened 2/19, Discover It opened 3/19, PenFed Visa opened 3/19 and Marcus PL opened 3/19. 

 

At 5 (credit/charge cards) / 24 (months) until: 08/2019
At 5 (all accounts) / 24 (months) until : 05/2020

 

Extra DPs - using the MPL to refinance high APR CC debt and new Amex & PenFed to split a high BT transfer. Disco is for 5% (10%) rewards and USB REI for summer backpacking expenses. 

 

EDIT: Lol, forgot to ask the question: Are there any cards that I should app for before hitting the garden? I feel like I am set on my rewards and BT, so at this point it would be just for a small SUB, between $500-1000 spend.

 

I appreciate the help!


If you want to get a Chase card, no you shouldn't apply for any new card. You should just hit the garden.

 

I don't know what Robbins Bros is. 5/24 only applies to revolving accounts.

 

If it's not a revolving account, then you should be in the clear in September 2019 I think. But I'm not a Chase expert, so the Chase experts will need to confirm.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Meanmchine
Super Contributor

Re: Understanding the "5/24"

You can sign on to Chase Journey free credit score site and you will see based on your TU file, what Chase considers to be your recently open accounts.  Takes all the guess work out of it

>3/2016 EX 644 CK-TU 642 CK-EQ 660 WalMart- 671.
>7/2025 All 3 reports 830 - 845(F8) F9s = all 850 but my app finger is still twitching
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Five6Two
Frequent Contributor

Re: Understanding the "5/24"

That’s a great tool, thanks! Unfortunately it includes installment accounts which I believe are not counted in Chase’s 4/24 approach. At least, that’s what I’ve read around here.
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Five6Two
Frequent Contributor

Re: Understanding the "5/24"

Robbins Brothers is a jewelry store, store card backed by TD - revolving account I suppose.
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