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User1109519
Established Member

AMEX Delta Gold Help

So I've had my Delta Gold AMEX for about 14-15 months now. It's been $1,000 the entire time and WON'T GROW! They keep asking me to upgrade the last couple months to the $550 per year Black Delta AMEX. Should I? Might that be a stepping stone? The Boeing 77 Black Delta AMEX is a GORGEOUS card indeed! Would it be $550 per card? If I have a couple of authorized users on my account, would that be an extra $1,100 per year? My credit score has fallen to about a 600. Not due to any negativity, but rather due to opening new auto loans and things of that nature. So maybe that is also coming into play? Does anyone have a recommendation of how high my credit score would need to be, before I can upgrade my limit? But as I said, I have absolutely no derogatories. Perfect payments. But I just took on a new auto loan, I actually have two open auto loans simultaneously. Plus like four or five new credit cards in the last year. About two in the last six months.

 

Thank you all!

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JM427
Contributor

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help

@User1109519 600 is a really score to have 0 derog's on your credit report.  What is your revolving utilization looking like?  How about your Average Age of Accounts?  I mean, clearly the score is likely the issue with Amex not letting you grow, so I definately would put some energy into understanding why your score is so low.  I am skeptical that a couple auto loans and some new accounts are the only drivers here.  There is a wealth of knowledge and experience on this forum, so if you can share some more data points from your reports, I am sure folks can help you understand why your score is low and give some advice on how to increase it.

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Pway
Valued Contributor

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help

What is your utilization across your cards. 

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OmarGB9
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help

Sorry but 600 is far too low to have zero negatives and only some new accounts. Something else is going on here. Have you pulled your full reports from annualcreditreport.com? There may be some inaccurate derogatory information you're unaware of that is keeping your scores down, which in turn is keeping you from getting a CLI. 


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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help

@User1109519  I would sit tight. You already have several new accounts, and multiple car loans. Also your credit score is low. I would sit tight, not apply for anything new, pay down balances, and let your accounts age.

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TRC_WA
Senior Contributor

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help

Yeah something's not right here.  I opened a $50k+ auto loan and my score didn't move.

 

I would definitely look at your reports.

FICO8 current as of : 2-1-26 EQ: 713 TU: 702 EX: 705
Hard INQs last 12 months: EQ: 1 | TU: 2 | EX: 1
Verizon Visa $8500 Amex Delta Gold $10,000 Care Credit $18,000
NFCU CashRewards $13,500 Apple Card $7000 Best Buy $8000 Amazon $5000
STCU auto loan (2026 Hyundai Palisade Hybrid) 6.24%
HDFS motorcycle loan (2024 Harley Davidson Road Glide) 9.45%
Total CL: $70,000 --- Total CC UTI: 31% --- AAoA: 6.5 years --- Income: $257k
Last app: 1-31-26
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User1109519
Established Member

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help

Here's my profile. I'm not sure why it's so low. Always has been. I zeroed out 99% of my revolving debts a couple months ago and barely hit 660. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Maybe I'm too new?


CK TU 597 EQ 613

 

AAoA 1 year 1 month

 

Credit Cards

Macys (AU) 2 years 4 months

$0 of $25,000

CFNA 2 years 3 months

$1,354 of $3,200

UNIFY 1 year 8 months

$4,357 of $5,000

Discover (AU) 1 year 8 months

$0 of $10,000

Target 1 year 2 months

$537 of $900

Home Depot 1 year 2 months

$0 of $1,000

AMEX Gold Delta 1 year 2 months

$1,083 of $1,000

PayPal MC 1 year 2 months

$665 of $700

NFCU 1 year 1 month

$1,148 of $2,500

Lowes 1 year 1 month

$0 of $300

Mathis Brothers 1 year 1 month

$1,447 of $3,000

Care Credit 1 year

$0 of $100

UNIFY 3 months

$149 of $500


CLOSED CARDS

Walmart 2 years 3 months

Home Design 1 year

UNIFY 1 year 8 months

CapitalOne 3 years 11 months

CapitalOne 4 years 6 months

Discover (AU) 2 years 1 months

Endurance FCU 1 year 2 months

 

Personal Loans

DCU 1 year 1 month

$16,845 of $20,000

UNIFY 3 months 

$9,730 of $10,000


PAID Personal Loans

Legacy Bank 5 years 11 months

First Bank & Trust 10 years 5 months

 

Auto Loans

BancFirst 5 months

$13,634 of $15,161

USE FCU 1 month

$41,279 of $41,279

 

PAID Auto Loans

CapitalOne 1 year 11 months

$0 of $19,553

Endurance FCU 1 year 3 months

$0 of $16,832

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User1109519
Established Member

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help

Forgot the inquiries. 38. 
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K-in-Boston
Epic Contributor

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help


@User1109519 wrote:

So I've had my Delta Gold AMEX for about 14-15 months now. It's been $1,000 the entire time and WON'T GROW! They keep asking me to upgrade the last couple months to the $550 per year Black Delta AMEX. Should I? Might that be a stepping stone? The Boeing 77 Black Delta AMEX is a GORGEOUS card indeed! Would it be $550 per card? If I have a couple of authorized users on my account, would that be an extra $1,100 per year? My credit score has fallen to about a 600...


Upgrading to the Delta Reserve won't in itself increase your limit.  As you have had the card for over a year, there are no Credit CARD Act regulations requiring a certain fees-to-limit ratio.  Also, the upgrade offers are rarely anywhere in the ballpark as a new card bonus.  The Delta Reserve currently has a 100,000 SkyMiles Welcome Offer, which is valued at a minimum of $1200 even for non-sale economy tickets.  Additional users are $175 each on the Delta Reserve, but really the only perks they get are SkyClub, Centurion Lounge, and Escape Lounge access when flying Delta or its partners.  Not even the free first bag or priority boarding they'd get with the sub-$100 Delta Gold card is extended to them (unless flying on the same PNR as you, the primary cardholder).

 

The scores you posted are VantageScore 3.0 scores.  On clean credit histories, they can be much lower than FICO 8 scores (such as the Experian FICO 8 that Amex uses to manage your account) when you have a ton of new credit as you seem to have.  You can get your actual Experian FICO 8 score by logging into your Amex account and navigating to Account Services (up top), Profile (on the left), and View FICO Score (bottom).  From what you have stated, your FICO 8 scores are probably a bit better but with all of the aggressive credit-seeking, that can give most lenders pause on extending additional credit.  You also appear to be over your credit limit on the Amex card? 

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OmarGB9
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: AMEX Delta Gold Help

So a few things going on here:

 

First, you're very aggressively seeking credit. You need to cool it.

 

Secondly, you're referencing Vantage scores from CK, which are highly volatile and can be very different from true FICO scores.

 

Thirdly, you seem to have a lot of maxed or near-maxed accounts, including an over limit Amex. Pay all of these down to zero and you should see some nice gains.


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