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@Anonymous wrote:
@jbestman007 wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:Wow,
My thread has been seriously censored on this site!
I tried to follow some links to responses and it says I don't have access..
I would just like to say that MyFico is not an honest place to post your experiences as they censor and create drama as a result of said censorship. I do have many other outlets to post my experiences and I will use them!
I will also post about my experiences here at MyFico and back them up with screen shots.
This is a very poor forum for customers, I think it is more geared towards propping up the lenders than letting the customers express themselves. Beware.
You should also really work on taking personal responsibility. From your posts I got none of that. It is everybody else's fault.
Good luck on your other forums. For me, and many others here, we get a lot of useful information here and absolutely love it.
To each its own.
I am taking personal responsibility! I am posting my expereinces!
I am not in here demaning anything! I am fine with my 17 other cards business practices - my issues are with AMEX.
Look at you talking down to me, like you have half the cards that I carry! LOL
Without touching on the rest of your post, I feel the need to point out that this is just the start. Citi and AMEX were just the first to react but if you don't fix whatever spooked them, the domino effect will kick in as the algorithms of your other cards start reacting to the sudden AA. If you would like assistance with avoiding that outcome, sharing your cards, limits, balances, and scores with us is a great start.
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@Anonymous wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:Enough already. Some posts were mistakenly deleted by me when removing a post that was a ToS violation. I apologize for that error.
@Anonymous
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Wait a minute! Why is this MY fault? I didnt break any TOS rules! I posted a link to my proof!
If I knew how to post images here I could just as easily post them here, I'd be delighted to!
No one said anything was your fault. However you have made several posts that violated forum guidelines and that includes discussion of Moderator actions. If you wish to discuss anything done by a Moderator you must do so via PM and do not post more in this thread regarding them. Limit your discussion to your issues with American Express and the replies from posters that are trying to help you.
@Anonymous wrote:
Remember - I have a flawless payment history.. there can be no justification for what happend to me. NONE!
Would you please answer my question about the 5k limit, the 10k spend that amex accused you on? I've asked several times, I feel this is KEY.
As someone who experienced balance chasing by numerous lenders (although not American Express or Bank of America) during the financial crisis due to high utilization while also having flawless payment history (as I still do), I understand that it can be quite upsetting when it happens to you. If your payment history is flawless, score penalties that large do NOT happen because of a few Amex cards being balance chased. You have been identified as a very high risk lendee due to your credit scores, this is not something that Amex has done as a personal vendetta against you. As stated before, Amex may just be the first lender to do so but it would not be unexpected to see a domino effect.
Once your scores improve, the risk is lowered and credit lines can and do return. Unless there are other factors that we have not been made aware of, this is a scoring issue (assumed due to utilization) pure and simple.
@Anonymous wrote:
@grower1 wrote:Users here can help to provide insights if you list out your accounts and utilization percentages. That's why they are asking all of the questions. Are you looking for insight or just needed to vent? It's clear that Amex has identified a risk in your profile. You've written a lot of accusations and no facts or details. I'm confused by this post. What is the proof?
There was a link to screen shots proving eveything I said but it was removed by the Mods... Check the first page you will see.
And you have it backwards, currently I have identified a serious risk in AMEX's profile. All the accusations are true and backed up by screen shot and voice recording! When I told AMEX I too was recording them they refused to respond any further and suggested I could not do such a thing... They disconnected the call and a manager called me back and offered me an option to return my limit to the $2700 it was at from the $1000 it was reduced to after a certian charitable donation that shall not be named. The wacked my credit line THREE times on my personal AMEX Blue. No missed payments.
I'm confused. You got a CLD due to arguing with the CSR or from a donation, or both? They mentioned the donation specifically to you? But in both cases, they offered to restore you CLs back to where they were?
At first I thought the CLDs were due to high util, perhaps an unmentioned cash advance on Amex, etc.
BTW, you can have a spotless payment history with a CC company, and they can still give a CLD, or even close your account. An example of a CLD with perfect payment history is a downturn in the economy where the national levels of util are too high given the economy. That wouldn't be an issue here, just an example. Account closure can happen due to "gaming" the card, with perfect payment history etc. So there can be other reasons with perfect payment history.
We don't know your scores, util, cash advance history, etc. So its just tossing up speculative possibilities right now.
@Anonymous wrote:
@jbestman007 wrote:
@Anonymous wrote:Wow,
My thread has been seriously censored on this site!
I tried to follow some links to responses and it says I don't have access..
I would just like to say that MyFico is not an honest place to post your experiences as they censor and create drama as a result of said censorship. I do have many other outlets to post my experiences and I will use them!
I will also post about my experiences here at MyFico and back them up with screen shots.
This is a very poor forum for customers, I think it is more geared towards propping up the lenders than letting the customers express themselves. Beware.
You should also really work on taking personal responsibility. From your posts I got none of that. It is everybody else's fault.
Good luck on your other forums. For me, and many others here, we get a lot of useful information here and absolutely love it.
To each its own.
I am taking personal responsibility! I am posting my expereinces!
I am not in here demaning anything! I am fine with my 17 other cards business practices - my issues are with AMEX.
Look at you talking down to me, like you have half the cards that I carry! LOL
The thing you seem to be missing is that AMEX doesn't know you from any of their other card holders. This isn't personal; they aren't stalking you and as a result decreasing your limits. Your credit profile provided TO them by THE CREDIT REPORTING COMPANIES is causing them to protect their assets. It's a simple, responsible business decision. As has been suggested by others, I wouldn't be surprised if other lenders follow suit. YOU need to look at what YOUR profile says and why it's causing the issues you're seeing.
Secondly, what's the use of complaining and ranting and raving about AMEX. Credit is a PRIVILEGE not a right. If you don't like their business decisions and their policies and procedures, move on. Give other companies that you respect your money. As a business owner, I anticipate you will understand that you can't bend to every customer's demands. While customer service is important, other things like risk are paramount.
I think you'll see things more clearly if you erase the drama and conspiracy theories and seek the actual root of the issue. It can be corrected once you do that.
best of luck to you!
@Stellar007 wrote:
my AMEX Business card that they whacked the limit to $5,000! Once I tried to use it for a $10k transaction and it declined the charge and I got a call from their customer service trying to accuse me of doing something wrong! Thank goodness I have a Discover card with a $17k limit and that $10k was no problem for them.
Is this not a cause for concern? A possible cause?
Also note that credit card companies are obligated to report factual information to the credit reporting agencies. These agencies have different algorithms in place to arrive at a "score". It is in my belief that no credit card company in out there intentionally trying to "mess up" an individual report/score. With that said, last month I let all of my cards report a balance (all less that 2% utilization) and my score tanked 26-28 points between agencies due to " too many accounts reporting a balance". So that could be a factor for the poor scores you currently have and what spooked Amex to credit chase you.
You also mentioned "paying on time" but paying on time does not equal paying in full after each statement. Only paying the minimum or slightly more but still carrying a balance (a consistent amount or increasing amount) could spook conservative lenders (or any lenders period).
As for my previous reply, I was not aware that the CSR stated where they were located but it seems logical that companies (such as Amex) will have systems in place to protect customers information.