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@Anonymous wrote:I think it's a question about attitude. I'm sure they would have found another reason.
I have read enough posts here on the forum to make sure that they stop charging and cancel accounts for any far-fetched reason. Stupid, unpredictable, unreliable and greedy lender.
Right. It makes great sense for any lender to close cards for any far-fetched reason, because they benefit by, oh wait they don't.
Yours was a clear violation of T&Cs, but the same thing applies to a lot "innocent" shutdown threads. There is no upside to a bank closing accounts for no reason, they make their money by having people use their accounts, generating swipe fees and perhaps interest.
@Anonymous wrote:I think it's a question about attitude. I'm sure they would have found another reason.
I have read enough posts here on the forum to make sure that they stop charging and cancel accounts for any far-fetched reason. Stupid, unpredictable, unreliable and greedy lender.
#SourGrapes
Updated with my friends response on the original post.
Ah Yes. Amex.
The ultimate roller coaster ride experience
@ojefferyo wrote:Updated with my friends response on the original post.
+1
I don't blame your friend at all.
While I really like my BCP, if they ever started giving me trouble I'd drop them in a heartbeat. There are just too many good lenders out there - who actually want our business - to play games with one like this. I mentioned earlier that going for both cards at once might (?) have driven this behavior, but that's still no excuse. If there was an issue approving someone with a thin file for a second card, they should have simply declined the application.
For the record, I understand "business is business", but that works both ways.
@UncleB wrote:
@ojefferyo wrote:Updated with my friends response on the original post.
+1
I don't blame your friend at all.
While I really like my BCP, if they ever started giving me trouble I'd drop them in a heartbeat. There are just too many good lenders out there - who actually want our business - to play games with one like this. I mentioned earlier that going for both cards at once might (?) have driven this behavior, but that's still no excuse. If there was an issue approving someone with a thin file for a second card, they should have simply declined the application.
For the record, I understand "business is business", but that works both ways.
I have to say I disagree. From his response it doesn't even look he contacted them in any way so he has no idea why they suspended his accunt. He has barely any of his own credit, applies for 2 cards back to back and can't understand why they might have some concerns? He probaby would have to spend very little effort to restore his account but instead decides to take that approach. If he takes that approach with every lender he won't be getting much credit of his own.
@Anonymous wrote:
@UncleB wrote:
@ojefferyo wrote:Updated with my friends response on the original post.
+1
I don't blame your friend at all.
While I really like my BCP, if they ever started giving me trouble I'd drop them in a heartbeat. There are just too many good lenders out there - who actually want our business - to play games with one like this. I mentioned earlier that going for both cards at once might (?) have driven this behavior, but that's still no excuse. If there was an issue approving someone with a thin file for a second card, they should have simply declined the application.
For the record, I understand "business is business", but that works both ways.
I have to say I disagree. From his response it doesn't even look he contacted them in any way so he has no idea why they suspended his accunt. He has barely any of his own credit, applies for 2 cards back to back and can't understand why they might have some concerns? He probaby would have to spend very little effort to restore his account but instead decides to take that approach. If he takes that approach with every lender he won't be getting much credit of his own.
He has contacted them already... this isn't just verification that he received his cards.
@ojefferyo wrote:
We get to his place and he checks his account. Orange bar across the top saying charges have been suspended and to call 1-800-678-0738. He called last night at 9:30 and they were already closed. I suggested to call the number on the back of the card to see what's going on and they lady said she couldn't help because another department was working on it already. When asked which department she kind of hesitated but reluctantly said the financial department. Looks like he's already getting a FR within the first week or so he's had the card. Only other time he's used it was to put gas in his car which is about $30 or so.
If we were just talking about a run-of-the-mill fraud block (for using the card at a gas pump, for example) I would agree, just make the call.
But in this case ojefferyo's friend has already called, and was told only someone from the financial dept. could help him, and we know what that most likely means.
As for calling back and dealing with the Amex financial dept, there's no 'right or wrong' answer here - to each his own - but in this case I would have done the same as the friend. I agree, with a thin file Amex might have questions, but the time for those questions, IMO, is before you give someone a card, not when they are in a store trying to make a purchase.
If this were my friend, I would simply tell him to get a Venture or QS with Capital One, and move forward from there. There are many lenders that won't require this level of shenanigans, even with a thin file.
Honestly Amex is just covering their arse...
Person can either provide what Amex wants and most likely have accounts restored or not and they will remain closed. Obviously it is his choice whether he wants to or not.
Not saying Amex is right, but not a good way to start out his credit journey with two cards opened and closed by lender that are only a month old? I would try to work with them, but obviously he is choosing a different path. They might just want pay stubs as we don't know this yet and what does that take a whole 5-10 minutes tops to fax or mail?
I can see where some say he should have called and see what they really had to say and I can also see how others would agree with what my friend said. If AMEX was uncomfortable with giving him the second card then they should have at least made the app go into review and ask the questions then and not after he had already received the cards. He has only used the PRG card twice and the second time it was already blocked. The ED card is still unswiped.
On a side note: l'll be damned if AMEX pulled that FR thing on me. I always PIF and my running balance is always over $10k with them. If they don't trust me after over a year of the same behavior then I would definately drop them too.
@CreditCuriousity wrote:Honestly Amex is just covering their arse...
Person can either provide what Amex wants and most likely have accounts restored or not and they will remain closed. Obviously it is his choice whether he wants to or not.
Not saying Amex is right, but not a good way to start out his credit journey with two cards opened and closed by lender that are only a month old? I would try to work with them, but obviously he is choosing a different path. They might just want pay stubs as we don't know this yet and what does that take a whole 5-10 minutes tops to fax or mail?
I think his mentality is that if you don't trust me from the beginning then why did you want to be my friend?