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Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

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BallBounces
Valued Contributor

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

Sorry to cause a stir.  Next time I have a question that is not solely related to myself, or is hypothetical in nature,  I will preface it as such.

 

(For what it is worth, the reason my scores are in the 500s has little to do with the 4 current cards I have.  There are people with poor scores such as mine who had very good ones in the not too distant past.)

 

Cheers.

 

Message 11 of 20
Shaw83
Regular Contributor

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

I would go for a discover card. If those are your scores might be secured but after I believe 7mos discover becomes a real boy. I have a qs1 and a cap platinum, I had a discover and wish I had focused on it but I kept my focus on cap1 and lost my discover.
 








current scores








Gardening since 2/12/21
Cap1 Qs $500
Citi secured-$300
Gettington-$800
Nfcu cash rewards $7000
NFCU nreward sec-$300
ch7 discharge 2013
Message 12 of 20
ChargedUp
Senior Contributor

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

Merrick and OLLO (and Cap One to an extent) tend to be the upper end of what is offered to sub-prime profiles unless you go secured. Credit One, 1st Premier and anything from Continental Finance usually charge so many fees that you may as well take all that fee money and open a secured card where you'd get that money back eventually.

Message 13 of 20
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?


@ChargedUp wrote:

Merrick and OLLO (and Cap One to an extent) tend to be the upper end of what is offered to sub-prime profiles unless you go secured. Credit One, 1st Premier and anything from Continental Finance usually charge so many fees that you may as well take all that fee money and open a secured card where you'd get that money back eventually.


This is spot on, now that you point it out.

Message 14 of 20
zerofire
Valued Contributor

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

There is one lender off the top of my head that is aiming at that market. The Petal Visa just redid the rewards to be competitive with the premium offerings up to 1.5% back. I do not have first hand experience though. They have a prequal option to double check without penalty as a way to get a hold of an application.

 

The other option is OpenSky with their no credit check but secured style.

TU:816 12/19/24 Bank of America--EX: 809 01/03/25 Experian--EQ:836 01/06/25 myFICO--Gardening since N/A
Active:
Bank of America (Customized Cash Rewards VSC, Unlimited Cash Rewards WMC{PT}), Capital One (Discover It DC, Savor WEMC), Chase (Amazon Prime VSC, Freedom Flex WEMC [x2]), Citi (Custom Cash WEMC, Dividend MC), Citizens GreenSense WMC, Curve WEMC{S}, FNBO Ducks Unlimited VSC, GBank VSC, Imprint Rakuten AC,PenFed Pathfinder Rewards VSC, Santander Ultimate Cash Back WMC, Synchrony PayPal Cashback WMC, UMB Simply Rewards VSC[Milford Federal], US Bank (Cash+ VSC [x2], Kroger Rewards WEMC, Pick n Save/Metro Market Rewards WEMC, Shield VC)
Wishlist: AAA Daily Advantage, AOD Signature, Aven, Bellco Colorado Rewards, Nusenda Platinum Cash Rewards, PCMCU Platinum Rewards, Redstone FCU Signature
Message 15 of 20
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

If you're strictly looking for Visa/MC, then I would also recommend Merrick. IMO they are one of the better CCC in that market.

I also wouldn't knock Discover, they can be very helpful in rebuilding/building credit. 

 

Message 16 of 20
KJinNC
Valued Contributor

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

I have four secured cards and would rank them like this: Discover > Citi > Capital One > Primor. Citi and Capital One are about the same. The only reason I rated Citi higher is that their app lets you automatically split monthly payment into two equal amounts on different days, to help control utilization. The Citi app also shows your Equifax FICO score, which can be hard to find for free.

 

Discover is pretty much the Rolls Royce of secured cards IMO. Of course, I only have those four, so I can't rate other cards I don't have.

 

I may be giving away my age, but I remember when Capital One first appeared on the scene. Unlike most credit card companies I was aware of at that time, they were new, and had few if any other businesses. They did not have bank branches then, for example. They added those later. So to me, Capital One seems like "new money" compared with companies like Citi, Chase, Amex. Of course, every company has to start somewhere, and as far as I know, Capital One isn't considered "predatory" the way Credit One or some others are.



FICO Resilience Index: 64. Cards: 5/24, 2/12, 2/6. Accounts including loans: 8/24, 4/12, 3/6. Card CLs total $213,900, or $240,400 including the AU card. Cards (oldest to newest)

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Message 17 of 20
NaaryalHead
Regular Contributor

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

Knowing what I know now, I wouldn't waste a 3B hard pull on cap one. I'd go for a secured citi card. Then wait for it to graduate to an awesome 2% back card like the Citi Double cash after a PC. Takes about 9 months to graduate if they deem you reliable.

5k+ CLs: Chase Amazon, Cap1 QS1,
10k+ CLs: BofA Cash Rewards, Amex Cash Magnet, Citi DC, Barclays Uber, Citi Premier, Chase Saphire Preff,Cap1 Savor1



Torch bearer of the Bucketeers' Society. Shamefully carrying a bucketed Cap One QS1 with AF & zero chance of a PC.
Message 18 of 20
KJinNC
Valued Contributor

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

I know there's more to it than FICO score, but just as a temperature reading, what FICO scores do you think someone would need to PC a freshly graduated Citi Diamond card to DC? Thanks!



FICO Resilience Index: 64. Cards: 5/24, 2/12, 2/6. Accounts including loans: 8/24, 4/12, 3/6. Card CLs total $213,900, or $240,400 including the AU card. Cards (oldest to newest)

Authorized user / Corporate / Auto loans / Personal loan
Message 19 of 20
NaaryalHead
Regular Contributor

Re: Anything between QS1 and the Sub Prime Crew?

Not sure if a scores even matter after they've graduated you already. I was in 740s when mine was PCed it to the DC.

5k+ CLs: Chase Amazon, Cap1 QS1,
10k+ CLs: BofA Cash Rewards, Amex Cash Magnet, Citi DC, Barclays Uber, Citi Premier, Chase Saphire Preff,Cap1 Savor1



Torch bearer of the Bucketeers' Society. Shamefully carrying a bucketed Cap One QS1 with AF & zero chance of a PC.
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