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Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Bye bye Capital One


@Howaboutthat wrote:

@Slabenstein wrote:

The QS1's I would close once the balances are off of them.  There are plenty of 1.5%+ cb no-AF cards out there, so even if you weren't carrying balances they'd still be money losers.  With regards to the other two, whether or not it makes sense to close probably depends on your overall profile.  How old are they compared to your other cards?  How many bankcards do you have?  Are their reward structures useful if you PIF?  Since they have no AF, there's no real harm in keeping them open, other than whatever time and attention it takes to put maintenance charges on them and monitor them for fraud, so whether you want to is really just a matter of preference and what purposes, if any, they can still serve in your profile.


My one QS is 5yrs and the other is 6yrs. If I'm correct even if I close them they stay on my account and report for 10yrs. As stated I'm going to transfer the balances of both to 0% balance transfer cards then close them.

 

I've never missed a payment in 6 years on any of these accounts and don't want to do any business with them again. 


The issue is, if the next oldest card is 1yr old, when they do drop off, you'll take a 4yrs hit to AAoA. Normally not a big deal as that 1yr old card is now 11, but for credit seekers like on these forums, it can be a huge problem.

    
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Howaboutthat
Frequent Contributor

Re: Bye bye Capital One

I'll be 73 by then and won't care to much😊

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Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Bye bye Capital One


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:


The issue is, if the next oldest card is 1yr old, when they do drop off, you'll take a 4yrs hit to AAoA. Normally not a big deal as that 1yr old card is now 11, but for credit seekers like on these forums, it can be a huge problem.


+1  Excellent point, @Brian_Earl_Spilner.    While cards may report for ten more years after closure, I think it's important to look at the overall card collection to see potential impacts to AAoA.   I've tried to keep older accounts open for that reason, not just my oldest reporting but multiple accounts.  I currently have four that are 20+ years old which help to anchor my AAoA.  They've all been product-changed into more useful renditions than the original cards which helps to keep them fresh and relevant. 


Business Cards


Length of Credit > 40 years; Total Credit Limits >$936K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 96.5 - AMEX 95.0 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 31 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Bye bye Capital One


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:


The issue is, if the next oldest card is 1yr old, when they do drop off, you'll take a 4yrs hit to AAoA. Normally not a big deal as that 1yr old card is now 11, but for credit seekers like on these forums, it can be a huge problem.


Unless I missed it, I don't believe the OP provided enough information to make that determination.  AAoA is a function of all accounts on one's CR.  It would be impossible to determine the AAoA drop associated with 2 old accounts falling off unless you knew how many accounts were being factored into that AAoA.  The more accounts present on the CR, the less impact to AAoA from old accounts falling off of course.

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Anonymous
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Re: Bye bye Capital One


@Anonymous wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:


The issue is, if the next oldest card is 1yr old, when they do drop off, you'll take a 4yrs hit to AAoA. Normally not a big deal as that 1yr old card is now 11, but for credit seekers like on these forums, it can be a huge problem.


Unless I missed it, I don't believe the OP provided enough information to make that determination.  AAoA is a function of all accounts on one's CR.  It would be impossible to determine the AAoA drop associated with 2 old accounts falling off unless you knew how many accounts were being factored into that AAoA.  The more accounts present on the CR, the less impact to AAoA from old accounts falling off of course.


Indeed. I have a 7 year old Capital One card that I have been refusing to close on the basis of its age (my next oldest card is 3 years old) but the truth is that in 10 years I'll have the age of all the accounts I have added since factoring into my AAoA as well. With the thickness of my file right now, each account I add only brings my AAoA down by one month and I'm a month away from three years AAoA again. I'm not convinced that losing that Capital One account would hurt me much with all the 26 accounts I opened after it added in, 18 of which are still open, because all the open accounts will age to ten years too. 

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Howaboutthat
Frequent Contributor

Re: Bye bye Capital One


@Anonymous wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:


The issue is, if the next oldest card is 1yr old, when they do drop off, you'll take a 4yrs hit to AAoA. Normally not a big deal as that 1yr old card is now 11, but for credit seekers like on these forums, it can be a huge problem.


Unless I missed it, I don't believe the OP provided enough information to make that determination.  AAoA is a function of all accounts on one's CR.  It would be impossible to determine the AAoA drop associated with 2 old accounts falling off unless you knew how many accounts were being factored into that AAoA.  The more accounts present on the CR, the less impact to AAoA from old accounts falling off of course.


Believe me I'll be ok, all things considered I'm not buying a new home anytime soon, have cars and all the things that are important to me and a pretty good amount of credit available. I've worked hard all my life and won't let a thing like AAOA stop me from doing what I want to do. I know the consequences. 

 

My cards minus the 4 Cap 1s I don't want. 

  1. American Express Every Day
  2. Bank of America Cash Rewards
  3. Apple Card
  4. Discover Card
  5. PNC Core card
  6. Mercury Bank*
  7. Credit One Bank *
  8. Comenity Bank*

 

Co-branded Bank Cards

  1. AAdvantage
  2. Costco
  3. Lowes 
  4. Care Credit
  5. Home Depot (Bucketed and getting rid of)

 

Credit Union Cards

  1. Penfed PCR
  2. Penfed Platinum Rewards

* = soon to be gone

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Bye bye Capital One

Yeah, so you've already got 15+ cards.  Dropping that down to 10+ wouldn't impact your file much a decade from now when those accounts start to fall off.  You'd also have the file-thickening of whatever other accounts you add between now and then to factor in as well.

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SFLSpotter9210
Valued Contributor

Re: Bye bye Capital One

Cap one was my first card when I was back into the credit game. I'm in the same boat as you high interest rate with a stagnant CL of 6,300 I'll just keep it in the sock draw as it's one of the oldest accounts for the time being. If your in the same boat as me with age of account I wouldn't go closing it either. Just my 2 cents worth. 

NFCU Flagship 32,500 | Penfed PowerCash 8,750 | PENFED GOLD 12,500 | PenFed PL 20,000 | NFCU AMEX Rewards 37,500 | NFCU GoRewards 7,000 | FNBO VISA SIGNATURE 13,700 | Capital One Quicksilver 6,300 | Lowe’s 34,500 | Wells Fargo Propel 19,700 | Barclay1k | Citi premier+ 13,600 | Citi Double Cash 18,800 | Citi Simplicity 10,000 | PNC Core VISA 22,500 | USAA AMEX 13,000 | citi custom cash 11,600 | BB&T Rewards 4,500 | BB&T Bright Card 4,500 | GS Apple 7,500 | Chevron 2,500 | Fico 8 Scores EQ=848 | EX=799 | TU=830scores and CL current as of 03/16/25 AAoA years 24 months | AoOA=18yrs
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Howaboutthat
Frequent Contributor

Re: Bye bye Capital One

I've payed off two cards and closed them. Transferred QS1 balance and will close as soon as I get confirmation. 

One more QS1 to balance transfer and close. 

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Mr_Mojo_Risin
Senior Contributor

Re: Bye bye Capital One

Cool, sounds good! Sometimes you gotta just move on when you feel it's not beneficial anymore. 

Enjoy your Sunday!

 

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AODFCU Visa Sig 5K CL
Discover IT 2.5K CL
Capital One QS 3600 CL
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