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Anonymous
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Changes to chase 5/24

I just saw someone post in a fb group that chase is changing the 5/24 rule to 2/24 in a few months. This person has not provided a source or has said where he heard it from. Can anyone confirm or deny?

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CreditCuriosity
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Re: Changes to chase 5/24


@Anonymous wrote:

I just saw someone post in a fb group that chase is changing the 5/24 rule to 2/24 in a few months. This person has not provided a source or has said where he heard it from. Can anyone confirm or deny?


rumor imo.  I bet as economy is in shambles and alot of people are unemployed if anything they would probably be loosening up rule to get more businiess and customer as their revenue/customer base will be shrinking.. If these people have job/income and chase can possibly make money off them..  Just my guess though, i certainly could be wrong though.

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Anonymous
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Re: Changes to chase 5/24

That seems unlikely even for Chase, though i suppose there are those who go all year without apping for anything.

 

This move would mean less revenue for them though.

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Citylights18
Valued Contributor

Re: Changes to chase 5/24

I don't know but I would be surprised if true because this would eliminate like 50% of consumers. They have too many co-branded products. 

 

Chase decided to require a 700 and 20 percent down for a home loan. They tightened their guidelines a lot but it doesn't prevent you from meeting them.

 

On another subject, American just increased its transatlantic bag fees to $75 one way. Another reason to hold their airline card. Loyalty cards are a big source of revenue and I can't see Chase cutting United, Marriot, Hyatt, IHG, Southwest ect. right off at their knees with a 2/24.

Official travel point totals as of 10/21/24 (1,358,177 Total Points)
Chase Ultimate Rewards 696,884 | IHG One Rewards 144,957 | Hilton Honors 144,521 | AMEX Membership Rewards 102,729 | World of Hyatt 76,095 | Marriott Bonvoy 65,343 | Citi Thank You 38,153 | Choice Rewards 32,460 | United MileagePlus 13,316 | British Airways Avios 12,333 | Jet Blue TrueBlue 11,780 | Wells Fargo Rewards 2,858 | Southwest Rapid Rewards 2,447 | NASA Platinum Rewards 1,883 | AA Advantage 1,744 | Navy Federal Rewards 1,087 | Delta Sky Miles 175 | Virgin Atlantic Virgin Points 100 | Lowes Business Rewards 7,102 ($71.02) | Amazon Rewards 2,200 ($4.75) | Discover CB 10 ($0.10)
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Anonymous
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Re: Changes to chase 5/24

I appreciate all the replys. I really hope this isn't true as I've been working my way to the chase trifecta with the sapphire reserve. I would be devistated if I were denied after spending all that time and effort.

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KJinNC
Valued Contributor

Re: Changes to chase 5/24

I have posted before that I think 5/24 is a disservice to cobrand partners, and that's going to come to a head at some point when partners start asking why their cards aren't performing as well as competitors' cards.

 

I have never been involved in credit card partnerships or cobrand discussions, but having been in a lot of different types of corporate discussions and partnerships, my guess is that there were no discussions to speak of between Chase and their cobrands about 5/24. Though I know some people here think with that many big brains involved, every detail is analyzed carefully, I can say that is not the case with some different but parallel things at big companies (names you've heard of). Sometimes it's on line 237 on a document somewhere or maybe it's on a document that is referred to by the document you see and you'd need to request that document to be aware of the issue. Maybe you hear it mentioned in passing but don't realize that it's unusual for Chase or that it's an obstacle.

 

I don't think it's a huge deal, since 5/24 won't affect most people with good credit anyway, but I do think they are losing their cobrands a little market share and revenue. I can say personally, I won't fly United or Southwest until 2022 because of 5/24 and I am someone who pays annual fees for airline cards and buys tickets on airlines. I may not represent that many people but I know I represent 1 person and I am guessing it's more than 1.

 

Getting more extreme on this would be that much more of a disservice to partners. For core cards, Chase can do what it wants. Why they think this is a good idea but Amex and Citi don't think it's a good idea is a question for Chase, I can imagine reasons, and it's their business anyway. But as for cobrands: Amazon wants cards in people's wallets so they shop at Amazon and not Target or Walmart. United wants cards in people's wallets so they fly United instead of Delta or American. Etc, it's just a different dynamic for cobrands, where the card is more a marketing tool than it is about making money on swipe fees, interest, annual fees.

 

For anybody wondering why I keep posting about this ... it's something very visible to me since it blocks me from getting Chase cards, but to be honest, there are no Chase cards I'm dying to have. I just think this is an obvious unforced error, and I bring it up so that Chase and their partners may see it if they go online to see what people think about their cards. I'm not particularly trying to persuade MyFICO forum members.

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Anonymous
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Re: Changes to chase 5/24

Just a rumor! I can't see 2/24 happening unless they want to kill off their co-branded travel partners in a time of need! Smiley Very Happy

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M_Smart007
Legendary Contributor

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I am just not seeing 2/24

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Anonymous
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Very well said above. While I'm not itching to get a United or SW card, it has to annoy people who are frequent flyers and are being denied for simply being over 5/24. With some not even knowing about it. I can understand denials due to credit perfomances, and even being really excessive on opening accounts. But 5 in 2 years isn't really that many when you're tying to find out what works best for you, or if changes happen to your favorite product promting a change.

 

By Citi and Amex not having such a strict rule, you can attain American and Delta products fairly regular. Though  may be subject to not getting the SUB if you've had it within the last two years with Citi. But at least you can still be approved for the card. Amex can only be gotten once, and it hasn't seem to reduce the amount of people applying. 

 

While I may get hate mail for mentioning this, but maybe Chase should just do what Amex has. Or they could simply word the SUB fine print the same as Citi, only eligible once every 48 months. But you can still apply for their products without ebing denied for 5/24.

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ChargedUp
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2/24 is way too extreme, especially on co-branded cards, but Chase has access to data that we will never know about. If this is true, we may see Citi, Amex, and even Cap One following suit in a way. Chase is #1 in assets in the USA, and that money isn't mostly from playing the credit card game.  Citi being the #1 card issuer in the USA has more to lose when it comes to restricting cards to certain profiles as their card portfolios are more of it's bread & butter. 

 

Chase was the first to predict a recession this time around, so they might be trying to head off bigger losses at the cost of growing their card portfolios for the time being. If 2/24 does come true, it's certainly not sustainable in the long run. So far, I haven't heard of Chase CLD'ing people for carrying a minimal balance (I'm carrying about 15-20% on my Chase cards for the time being.), and I've read that Chase has boosted the amount of cash that it has set aside for bad debt/charge offs in the future. Limiting risk during these times does make sense as I'm sure there are people right now willing to sacrifice their credit profile to make ends meet and no lender wants to be a part of that.

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