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Citi's change to AutoPay

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Anonymous
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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay

The logic is sound. If you have autopay minimum payment set up with the new policy you will be chagred the minimum amount even if you make a payment. Citi is double dipping. I made a 1,500 payment before the due date and then was then charged the auotpay amount from the prior statement.  So of course I deleted autopay. This does not happen on the other cards I have. It only benefits Citi not the customer. And I do think that late payment fees will go up with this policy.      

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Anonymous
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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay

Citi’s  Autopay  Policy change:   

 

Think of it this way. I am a senior vice president at Citi. I have millions of credit card customers. How can I make more money off them ? 

 

Lets change the Autopay policy. We can double charge people who have it set up to minimum and also make manual payments.

 

After the customer deletes the minimum autopay we know some of them are not always good about making payments on time so we get revenue from late fees also.

 

This new policy in no way shape or form benefits the customer only Citi

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It is just wrong. If you make a payment during the month before the due date you should not then be charged the minimum autopay amount if you have it set up.   

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Subexistence
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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay

Stop being so lazy. If you can bother to manually pay beforehard, you can certainly afford to manually pay everytime. Just turn off auto and always manually pay. It builds a good habit of forcing you to check your finances.








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Anonymous
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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay

Off topic but I wanted to share my wonderful news!  Got an email from Eversource (utility company) with title Great News for Auto Pay Customers.

 

I could hardly control my excitement as I opened it:

 

Dear Auto Pay Customer,

 

We’re contacting you today with great news regarding your Eversource bill.

Based on customer feedback, we’ve updated your monthly statement to include the date your automatic payment amount will be debited from your bank account. You’ll see this additional information on your next Eversource statement. 

Thank you for your feedback and we hope you find this enhancement helpful.

Sincerely, 
 
Eversource Customer Care Team

 

 

Now if that isn't great news I don't know what is.

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Anonymous
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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay

Why not just deduct the autopay amount from your manual payment? 

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Anonymous
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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay

Are you a citi emplyoee ?

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Subexistence
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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay


@Anonymous wrote:

Are you a citi emplyoee ?


who are you referring to?








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NRB525
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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay


@Anonymous wrote:

Citi’s  Autopay  Policy change:   

 

Think of it this way. I am a senior vice president at Citi. I have millions of credit card customers. How can I make more money off them ? 

 

Lets change the Autopay policy. We can double charge people who have it set up to minimum and also make manual payments.

 

After the customer deletes the minimum autopay we know some of them are not always good about making payments on time so we get revenue from late fees also.

 

This new policy in no way shape or form benefits the customer only Citi

.

It is just wrong. If you make a payment during the month before the due date you should not then be charged the minimum autopay amount if you have it set up.   


Huh?

The Minimum Payment is not a fee Citi charges you. You don't "lose" the money when they transact your minimum payment. Citi does not keep this money as a fee.

 

It is money that goes from your checking account cash to pay for charges that you have incurred on the card, charges on the card you have to pay off with cash at some time or other. The minimum payment goes toward paying the balance you owe.

 

If during the month you pay your balance to zero, and Citi takes another $30 for the scheduled minimum payment, that puts your credit card account in a negative balance in your favor. The next time you charge a $30 restaurant meal or a tank of gas, that new charge of $30 offsets the negative balance, bringing the credit card account to net zero.

 

If you pay the card to zero and Citi takes the $30 minimum payment, and you do nothing else, the card sits there with a negative balance (money Citi owes you) of -$30. If you do nothing else, that -$30 will sit there to the end of time. The next statement that cuts will show a -$30 amount and no minimum payment is due, so no minimum autopayment will be taken.

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Re: Citi's change to AutoPay


@NRB525 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Citi’s  Autopay  Policy change:   

 

Think of it this way. I am a senior vice president at Citi. I have millions of credit card customers. How can I make more money off them ? 

 

Lets change the Autopay policy. We can double charge people who have it set up to minimum and also make manual payments.

 

After the customer deletes the minimum autopay we know some of them are not always good about making payments on time so we get revenue from late fees also.

 

This new policy in no way shape or form benefits the customer only Citi

.

It is just wrong. If you make a payment during the month before the due date you should not then be charged the minimum autopay amount if you have it set up.   


Huh?

The Minimum Payment is not a fee Citi charges you. You don't "lose" the money when they transact your minimum payment. Citi does not keep this money as a fee.

 

It is money that goes from your checking account cash to pay for charges that you have incurred on the card, charges on the card you have to pay off with cash at some time or other. The minimum payment goes toward paying the balance you owe.

 

If during the month you pay your balance to zero, and Citi takes another $30 for the scheduled minimum payment, that puts your credit card account in a negative balance in your favor. The next time you charge a $30 restaurant meal or a tank of gas, that new charge of $30 offsets the negative balance, bringing the credit card account to net zero.

 

If you pay the card to zero and Citi takes the $30 minimum payment, and you do nothing else, the card sits there with a negative balance (money Citi owes you) of -$30. If you do nothing else, that -$30 will sit there to the end of time. The next statement that cuts will show a -$30 amount and no minimum payment is due, so no minimum autopayment will be taken.


I think the main issue is why would Citi take that 30 when you have paid in full.  There is no reason for them to take that 30 from your checking account and to apply it to your card.

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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Citi's change to AutoPay


@Anonymous wrote:

@NRB525 wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

Citi’s  Autopay  Policy change:   

 

Think of it this way. I am a senior vice president at Citi. I have millions of credit card customers. How can I make more money off them ? 

 

Lets change the Autopay policy. We can double charge people who have it set up to minimum and also make manual payments.

 

After the customer deletes the minimum autopay we know some of them are not always good about making payments on time so we get revenue from late fees also.

 

This new policy in no way shape or form benefits the customer only Citi

.

It is just wrong. If you make a payment during the month before the due date you should not then be charged the minimum autopay amount if you have it set up.   


Huh?

The Minimum Payment is not a fee Citi charges you. You don't "lose" the money when they transact your minimum payment. Citi does not keep this money as a fee.

 

It is money that goes from your checking account cash to pay for charges that you have incurred on the card, charges on the card you have to pay off with cash at some time or other. The minimum payment goes toward paying the balance you owe.

 

If during the month you pay your balance to zero, and Citi takes another $30 for the scheduled minimum payment, that puts your credit card account in a negative balance in your favor. The next time you charge a $30 restaurant meal or a tank of gas, that new charge of $30 offsets the negative balance, bringing the credit card account to net zero.

 

If you pay the card to zero and Citi takes the $30 minimum payment, and you do nothing else, the card sits there with a negative balance (money Citi owes you) of -$30. If you do nothing else, that -$30 will sit there to the end of time. The next statement that cuts will show a -$30 amount and no minimum payment is due, so no minimum autopayment will be taken.


I think the main issue is why would Citi take that 30 when you have paid in full.  There is no reason for them to take that 30 from your checking account and to apply it to your card.


Because they decided to change their policy after getting so many questions from one set of people who saw a Minimum Payment amount on their monthly statement, the actual Autopayment was something less, and the cardholders called customer service in utter confusion. Having the Autopay follow what the cardholder says, Pay the Minimum Payment, makes it clear to these folks that the Minimum Payment will be coming out of their bank account on a date certain.

 

Like all changes to policy, now there is a new consituency that can't comprehend the possibility to adjust their Pay Before Statement Cut methodology to hold up a little short or to change their Autopay amount from Minimum to some other choice.

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