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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card Advice

My experience disagrees a bit with espnjunkie, not to say that he's "wrong", because he's absolutely not wrong.

 

But I did apply for Discover a week before AMEX BCE. I was approved for a 6K limit and was convinced by a forum-goer or two to apply for the BCE before the accounts truly hit.

 

If you're young, which being a grad I'm believing you are, and you don't have any major purchases planned within the next year (car, house, etc...), then apply now. I had my Disc approved on Feb 26th, on March 2nd, I got my BCE for 9,500. But then again, my overall AAOA was over 6 years and my scores were in mid-700's, so of course, YMMV. You might not have the established history which is why the 6 month wait might actually help.

 

It's truly up to you what you want to do, risk the INQ now and if not try again in 6 months or just wait overall.

 

Personally, I would have taken a lot more chances when I was younger because I knew I would be responsible with credit and wanted to have a longer history, either way, if you apply for an AMEX (whether it's April or December), it all counts as 2012 when it comes to backdating.

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crunching_numbers
Valued Contributor

Re: Credit Card Advice


@Lucrii wrote:

Okay, I guess the point I'm confused on is that I currently work full time on a co-op in the 40k/yr range. Once I graduate and transition to my new job I'll be earning in the low 60k range. So from my view point, I have a stable income but I wasn't sure if that would meet someone else's criteria.

 

I agree that the fact I just got approved for another credit card may look bad, which is why one of the questions I was also asking was when would be a good time to apply?


If you have had income of $40K for a couple of years, and it is reportable (as yours would have been- W2 or 1099 was issued) with no bad credit yet, you should qualify for another revolver, providing your debt isn't crazy high from Student loans or something. Amex IS one of the most income sensitive, but you sound like that is not your problem, but a thin file is.

 

I would go ahead and try for a BCE. BCP, like FrugalRican said, comes with a $75 AF.  Your expense level might not warrant that yet, where BCE is free. If you are not approved, you can try for a Chase Freedom card. Since DM is not something you are interested in, Chase Freedom is probably your best bet for an all around rewards card. IF you open a Chase checking account, you also qualify for their bonus 10+10 Freedom version.

 

Frug- I think he has been an AU on a Blue for a long time- he will backdate even further.


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Message 12 of 17
espnjunkie
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Re: Credit Card Advice

You could always go for a charge card as well. You should definitely be able to get approved for one and they help build a positive history with amex. This makes it easier to get approved for a revolver in the future.

 

I do hear what you are saying frugal in going for cards while younger, but it can also pay to have patience. Credit building is a marathon, not a sprint. Apply only for what you need can prevent alot of future problems and make it less likely you overspend.

 

At the end of the day you could apply now, an inquiry will not kill you. That being said, your chances will be even better with six months of gardening

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Message 13 of 17
Revelate
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Credit Card Advice


@espnjunkie wrote:

You could always go for a charge card as well. You should definitely be able to get approved for one and they help build a positive history with amex. This makes it easier to get approved for a revolver in the future.

 

I do hear what you are saying frugal in going for cards while younger, but it can also pay to have patience. Credit building is a marathon, not a sprint. Apply only for what you need can prevent alot of future problems and make it less likely you overspend.

 

At the end of the day you could apply now, an inquiry will not kill you. That being said, your chances will be even better with six months of gardening


One inquiry is nothing: better even to apply now, and even if denied, then wait the six months as you suggest.  As FR points out, long term it doesn't matter whether it's opened now or in December, but short/mid term (call it 3 years) it does.

 

I won't bore you with math, but the simple fact is the OP wants the tradeline, and as such should open it as soon as possible.  The whole wait six months to a year is for marginal approvals, which given the current credit market, he may well not be.  I know most of the people on these forums have been broken (credit wise) at some point in their past, but the conventional "gardening wisdom" doesn't apply when you're short on tradelines when new to the credit world... it's better to go on the application spree at that point and get all the negatives out of the way at once and make them already a fading memory on your credit profile.

 

I'll also point out anyone who bothers to calculate his monthly expenditures to see if an AF is worthwhile or not, is way ahead of the curve.  There are long term forum members here who blow that one, and in the credit world, this is a well educated population.  

 

Anyway we were all young once, but the dude has a plan: that's pretty rare compared to the legions of recent college grads that walked through my interview closet as a hiring manager.  Sure he may blow it, but I'd submit that not everyone is going to succomb to the same failings some or many of us here did.

 

 




        
Message 14 of 17
Lucrii
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Re: Credit Card Advice


Thank you everyone for your advice.

 

To be honest, I was originally going to apply sometime later in the year but after reading everyone's responses I decided to apply for the Amex BCE. After filling out the application, it told me that the decision was pending but I immediately checked the status and I was approved. I just called and found out that it will be for a 2k limit.

 

I am definitely set as far as credit cards go now, and I'm really happy about how things turned out. For my needs, I don't think there could be a better combo between the Venture One and the BCE and with applying right away, by the time I'm looking to buy a new car in about two years time my report should be clear of hard inquiries.

 

So, for me, the advice to not wait will probably pay off down the road.

Also....


Revelate wrote:


  Anyway we were all young once, but the dude has a plan: that's pretty rare compared to the legions of recent college grads that walked through my interview closet as a hiring manager.  Sure he may blow it, but I'd submit that not everyone is going to succomb to the same failings some or many of us here did.

I lol'ed at the "interview closet" line. Boy was I experiencing that last fall!

 

As for blowing it, it would be uncharacteristic but anything's possible.

 

(Oh, and just for posterity's sake, I'm female... Smiley LOL)

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Message 15 of 17
Anonymous
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Re: Credit Card Advice

Congratulations on the BCE, that one has definite potential to grow. In 61 days, you can get a CLI that could push you up to 6K.

It's a great card. I don't know if you got the sign up bonus or not... but if you did, all you have to do is spend 1000 in the first 90 days and you'll get a 100 dollar statement credit.

 

BTW, when I said one of the forum goers had told me to pull the trigger soon after the Discover More was approved for me, it was Revelate who talked some sense into me about applying right THEN rather than waiting til later and the strategy worked out perfectly. As always, it's a YMMV scenario and what worked for me might not always work out for everyone, but it'll work out for you in both short term and long term.

 

As ESPN pointed out, this is a marathon not a sprint and between the BCE and the Venture, you now have the tools for the long run.

Message 16 of 17
Revelate
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Re: Credit Card Advice

Hey congrats Lucril!  I'm constantly screwing up people's gender on this forum. Smiley Wink  My apologies to you on that one.

 

FR: am glad the advice came in handy!  Agreed, it doesn't work in all cases and for all people, but both you and the OP here were in somewhat similar situations if I remember right.

 




        
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