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ChargedUp
Senior Contributor

Re: General spend Card becoming less Important


@Horseshoez wrote:

@ChargedUp wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@longtimelurker wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@longtimelurker wrote:

As always, it really depends on your spend, and to some extent terminology.    While a lot of my usual spend is covered by 5% cards, occasional big spends aren't, and there are enough of these, and expensive enough, to end up being a big fraction of total spend.   For me, these include dentist, vet, car repairs and labor costs for appliance work.  Where terminology comes in is that I am able to use the Altitude Reserve (not strictly a general spend card!) on dentist and car, but the others need a true general spend.   So this type of card is still very useful for me


I cheat, I pay the dentist from my HSA card with pre-tax income.  Smiley Tongue


Strictly from a rewards perspective, a better option would be to pay your dentist using your highest rewards card and then transfer the amount of the bill from your HSA to your checking account.  You'd have to do the math to see if the extra rewards are worth the extra effort.  To me, they are.


Waaay too much work for a few dollars.


I use AR and then get some paid from my pretax FSA, which takes less than a minute


I don't know what AR is, but with my HSA I'd need to apply for reimbursement, and the only way to do that for a payment which didn't come in directly from a health care provider is to photograph/scan in the invoice and proof of payment, send them in to the HSA company, and then wait for them to review and reimburse.  I mean "REALLY", all that for a few dollars?  No thanks, I've got better (and more productive) things to do with my time.


I keep a file for paid medical and pharmacy receipts and just send a total over to my tax guy at the end of the year. He doesn't care what card I use Smiley Happy


Are your medical and pharmacy expenses such that you get to pay them in pre-tax income?  As a general rule, my understanding is the only way to do that is to use either an HSA or FSA card for the payment (unless you want to play the aforementioned game of applying for reimbursements from your medical savings accounts).


We don't have a FSA or HSA account, so he just writes them off on our return at the end of the year in some way. I just got through paying a $520 dental deductible for DD to have her wisdom teeth pulled. This along with family prescription co-pays, optometrist/eye glasses/contacts, chiropractor visits, etc. usually ends up taking around $5K off my taxable income.

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Beast26
Established Contributor

Re: General spend Card becoming less Important

In my case I will probably spend around $7-8k in a year of general spend which will end up being around 25% less than what I would get with a 1.5% card.  Let's say spend was at $10k/year for a 1.5 vs a 2%.  That would be $150 vs $200 in general spend.





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Horseshoez
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Re: General spend Card becoming less Important

@Beast26, yes, 1.5% is a quarter less than 2.0%; the flip side is, 2.0% is a third more than 1.5%.

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GatorGuy
Valued Contributor

Re: General spend Card becoming less Important


@ChargedUp wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@ChargedUp wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@longtimelurker wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Horseshoez wrote:

@longtimelurker wrote:

As always, it really depends on your spend, and to some extent terminology.    While a lot of my usual spend is covered by 5% cards, occasional big spends aren't, and there are enough of these, and expensive enough, to end up being a big fraction of total spend.   For me, these include dentist, vet, car repairs and labor costs for appliance work.  Where terminology comes in is that I am able to use the Altitude Reserve (not strictly a general spend card!) on dentist and car, but the others need a true general spend.   So this type of card is still very useful for me


I cheat, I pay the dentist from my HSA card with pre-tax income.  Smiley Tongue


Strictly from a rewards perspective, a better option would be to pay your dentist using your highest rewards card and then transfer the amount of the bill from your HSA to your checking account.  You'd have to do the math to see if the extra rewards are worth the extra effort.  To me, they are.


Waaay too much work for a few dollars.


I use AR and then get some paid from my pretax FSA, which takes less than a minute


I don't know what AR is, but with my HSA I'd need to apply for reimbursement, and the only way to do that for a payment which didn't come in directly from a health care provider is to photograph/scan in the invoice and proof of payment, send them in to the HSA company, and then wait for them to review and reimburse.  I mean "REALLY", all that for a few dollars?  No thanks, I've got better (and more productive) things to do with my time.


I keep a file for paid medical and pharmacy receipts and just send a total over to my tax guy at the end of the year. He doesn't care what card I use Smiley Happy


Are your medical and pharmacy expenses such that you get to pay them in pre-tax income?  As a general rule, my understanding is the only way to do that is to use either an HSA or FSA card for the payment (unless you want to play the aforementioned game of applying for reimbursements from your medical savings accounts).


We don't have a FSA or HSA account, so he just writes them off on our return at the end of the year in some way. I just got through paying a $520 dental deductible for DD to have her wisdom teeth pulled. This along with family prescription co-pays, optometrist/eye glasses/contacts, chiropractor visits, etc. usually ends up taking around $5K off my taxable income.


To deduct medical and dental expenses it has to be more than 10% of your income. 

Message 34 of 35
longtimelurker
Epic Contributor

Re: General spend Card becoming less Important


@GatorGuy wrote:

e.

To deduct medical and dental expenses it has to be more than 10% of your income. 


Isn't it that you can deduct that amount that exceeds 7.5% of AGI?

 

Probably too far OT by now!

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