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@Gunnar419 wrote:
@mzgg09 wrote:I was just wondering and thinking about something when it comes to major credit card limits. You work hard to get high scores so that you can get good credit. And in turn you hope that this good credit earns you some high limit cards. But what do you do when you have the score to get high limit cards but not the income to support? Is it fair to say that since I only make 40k a year, by right I should only get a limit high enough that a low income would support? Am I just pretty much set to never be in that high limit credit card club no matter how high my scores are? Just curious.
I make considerably less than $40k and have scores in the 800s. I have six ccs. Two have CLs over $15k and two have CLs over $10k. That might not be what you call high, but it's not what I'd call stagnation, either.
In the two or so years since I joined MyFico, I've gone from somewhere around $11k total CLs to over $60k total CLs. That's not stagnation, either.
+1
I'm in a similar situation as Gunnar419 in the sense that when I started here in 2012 my total credit limit was $2,475 spread across three cards. Without a major income jump since then, I have gotten myself to to what you see now in my signature. In the future I hope to be somewhere around where Gunnar419 is, with something like 15k on each card. That's my goal.
Nicely done, relentless602. You're well on your way with that healthy portfolio of cards.
Of course there are limits to what cccs are going to offer to someone with a modest income, but I've found that those limits are surprisingly high for people who have good scores + long and perfect history. Having a well established record of paying back your debts is worth more than having a high income but unknown or shaky reliability.
@mzgg09 wrote:Is it fair to say that since I only make 40k a year, by right I should only get a limit high enough that a low income would support? Am I just pretty much set to never be in that high limit credit card club no matter how high my scores are? Just curious.
As other have asked what's "high"? Always clarify such subjective words.
@mzgg09 wrote:But what do you do when you have the score to get high limit cards but not the income to support?
You work with what you have. However, it seems you're making some assumptions. Difficult to say for certain given the vague nature of your OP. What do you think your income restricts you to? Gunnar419 has provided one example of what's possible with income lower than yours but it depends a lot on credit profile and not just income. I think back when I was in that income bracket I managed maybe $17K in total limits but I didn't know anything about credit. My payment history was clean but utilization was certainly high.
@Gunnar419 wrote:
@mzgg09 wrote:I was just wondering and thinking about something when it comes to major credit card limits. You work hard to get high scores so that you can get good credit. And in turn you hope that this good credit earns you some high limit cards. But what do you do when you have the score to get high limit cards but not the income to support? Is it fair to say that since I only make 40k a year, by right I should only get a limit high enough that a low income would support? Am I just pretty much set to never be in that high limit credit card club no matter how high my scores are? Just curious.
I make considerably less than $40k and have scores in the 800s. I have six ccs. Two have CLs over $15k and two have CLs over $10k. That might not be what you call high, but it's not what I'd call stagnation, either.
In the two or so years since I joined MyFico, I've gone from somewhere around $11k total CLs to over $60k total CLs. That's not stagnation, either.
JESUS!!!! (gets down on knees to praise) what cards do you have
There's always a lot of talk about credit scores (this is myFICO of course) and that's definitely the first step in the credit approval process, but ultimately, the question is how much can a borrwer pay back? Income is obviously a factor, but some people are able to pay back a lot more because of reimbursements from employers or business expenses, etc.
Also, the lenders have to be thinking about their liability vs. their opportunity to make money. If someone is charging $500 a month, there's only so much a bank can make from those charges. Giving them a huge limit would be a risk with little reward potential. Someone who charges $10k a month would have a lot higher reward potential, so it would be worth the risk (considering other factors of course) to offer them a higher limit.
You won't necessarily be "stagnant". You can get CLIs and growth without large income. Using the cards responsibly over time will go a long way with most lenders (some like Chase just aren't big on CLIs). Discover and Capital One come to mind as typically giving CLIs to those who show a good history (although nothing is of course guaranteed).
Now there will be an upper limit on what you can achieve with your income; lenders aren't likely to give you limits 2-3x your income because there's no basis for being able to pay it back if you maxed it out. That said, some people do have limits well above their incomes. If you are disciplined enough, it's fine, but it can be a disaster if you overspend and can't pay it back because your income doesn't match up with the limits.
@Gunnar419 wrote:
@mzgg09 wrote:I was just wondering and thinking about something when it comes to major credit card limits. You work hard to get high scores so that you can get good credit. And in turn you hope that this good credit earns you some high limit cards. But what do you do when you have the score to get high limit cards but not the income to support? Is it fair to say that since I only make 40k a year, by right I should only get a limit high enough that a low income would support? Am I just pretty much set to never be in that high limit credit card club no matter how high my scores are? Just curious.
I make considerably less than $40k and have scores in the 800s. I have six ccs. Two have CLs over $15k and two have CLs over $10k. That might not be what you call high, but it's not what I'd call stagnation, either.
In the two or so years since I joined MyFico, I've gone from somewhere around $11k total CLs to over $60k total CLs. That's not stagnation, either.
Same for moi. Though I am not in the 800's, my limits tend to be higher. (I am NOT comfortable with Barclays 10k, I like 5k, but 3k is good too). I only asked for 1500 increase on BCE. I could of had that at 10k also. What the CCC's see is usage. This is what they like. Then, they tend to match other limits, as much as income allows. I am in the upper 20's, though projected would be lower to mid 30's. I am retired with investment and business income.
for my cc the limits combines is way passed what i make a year.
@Anonymous wrote:
@Gunnar419 wrote:
@mzgg09 wrote:I was just wondering and thinking about something when it comes to major credit card limits. You work hard to get high scores so that you can get good credit. And in turn you hope that this good credit earns you some high limit cards. But what do you do when you have the score to get high limit cards but not the income to support? Is it fair to say that since I only make 40k a year, by right I should only get a limit high enough that a low income would support? Am I just pretty much set to never be in that high limit credit card club no matter how high my scores are? Just curious.
I make considerably less than $40k and have scores in the 800s. I have six ccs. Two have CLs over $15k and two have CLs over $10k. That might not be what you call high, but it's not what I'd call stagnation, either.
In the two or so years since I joined MyFico, I've gone from somewhere around $11k total CLs to over $60k total CLs. That's not stagnation, either.
JESUS!!!! (gets down on knees to praise) what cards do you have
If you'll get up off your knees and dust yourself off, I'll tell you.
Discover It: $15,700
Cap1 Quicksilver: $15,000
Barclays Sallie Mae MC: $12,000
Amex Costco TE: $11,200
The other two are Chase Freedom and Amex ED, both between $5-10k.
I have to admit, it sometimes amazes me, too, given my paltry income.
I owe it all to MyFico and to having had credit longer than some MyFicoans have been alive.
40k income does limit the start limit of new cards, though if 10k SL/CL is what you looking for you will still get it after some history and high score, 15k SL is very top call, and 20k is pretty much near impossible, what you can do is to bump the SL to over 10k with soft CLI or HP if you want, or apply for new card from same issuer then combine limit if the issuer allows that. However, your total credit limit is still very high.
I use 45k income on app, have over 10 years history, I usually apped when score at between 785-800, have 20 cards, total credit limit is 170k, have experience with Amex, Discover, Capital One, Chase, Citi, Synchrony(Walmart Master), TD bank, BBVA, Bank of America/FIA Card Services and Barclays, highest SL I got is 12k from Barclays (instant approval, too), have never gotten 15k SL, I do have over 20k total CL from some issuers, 30k from Amex (reached internal limit), but I don't combine cards/limit since all the cards I got will be kept and serve their purpose/benefit to me, did move a bit CL around from same issuer to fit me more. Currently half of my cards are at or slightly over 10k from soft CLI, quarter of my cards at 7k-9k, and other quarter at very low 1k-5k. I have no experience with CU that are generous to CL or have tried Capital One Venture card. In the end, you will get 10K SL approval once you have good history, but probably not 15K, and with a bit "work around" whether CLI or combine limits you will get cards to 15k to 25k if that's your purpose.