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K-in-Boston
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Re: Income verification

I've removed some posts that were bordering on not being Friendly, Supportive, and Respectful, and the post that began that conversation.  To clear up any confusion, at no time did the OP state that their SO filed fraudulent tax returns or planned to amend them later, only that she never filed them at all for these two tax years.

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Income verification

There could be a hord of possible legit reasons for not having a tax records for the last few years. At this point, guessing why and assuming we know why, is not useful. We should just let it go until and unless OP is willing to disclose.

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stonedog23
Frequent Contributor

Re: Income verification


@Remedios wrote:

@Tomew2000 wrote:

My significant other received a Discover Card a few months ago,with a 8500 limit.  She used that, and has been making regular on time payments.   They contacted her today asking her to sign a 4506 form,so they can verify info on her tax records.  Problem is, she hasn't filed 2017 or 2018 yet.   
   I'm assuming that they'll pull her credit line at that point, and make her pay off the balance.  Anyone have any insight as to why they're asking now?  How will that affect her credit?  if anyone knows if that will raise any red flags at the IRS, I'd appreaciate it 


If she hasn't filed taxes, what did she put on her application? 

They specifically ask for source of income. 


Filing taxes and having an income are two different things. How much time is Discover giving your SO to provide the form? 

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Tomew2000
Regular Contributor

Re: Income verification

Hey all

   Thanks for the good feedback Just to be clear, there’s no false income reporting.  My question was really on the Credit side, and the tax question was a sidebar.   

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thornback
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Re: Income verification


@Tomew2000 wrote:

Hey all

   Thanks for the good feedback Just to be clear, there’s no false income reporting.  My question was really on the Credit side, and the tax question was a sidebar.   


Disco requested the same from me after a full year of having the card and PIFing each month.  I declined to oblige (too much personal info for a credit card AND they use Equifax - of all reckless entities - as the 3rd party to obtain the docs so that made me uncomfortable) -  so i closed my account with them.  I had already paid my balance in full so that was of no concern - all i lost was a healthy credit limit.  The sky didn't fall. 

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Remedios
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Re: Income verification


@stonedog23 wrote:

@Remedios wrote:

@Tomew2000 wrote:

My significant other received a Discover Card a few months ago,with a 8500 limit.  She used that, and has been making regular on time payments.   They contacted her today asking her to sign a 4506 form,so they can verify info on her tax records.  Problem is, she hasn't filed 2017 or 2018 yet.   
   I'm assuming that they'll pull her credit line at that point, and make her pay off the balance.  Anyone have any insight as to why they're asking now?  How will that affect her credit?  if anyone knows if that will raise any red flags at the IRS, I'd appreaciate it 


If she hasn't filed taxes, what did she put on her application? 

They specifically ask for source of income. 


Filing taxes and having an income are two different things. How much time is Discover giving your SO to provide the form? 


 

Thank you for clarifying that for me 😐

With that said, Discover will only accept tax returns as proof of income, so while they are two different things, one is used to address the other. 

 

 

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Remedios
Credit Mentor

Re: Income verification

OP has indicated tax returns are not what they want to discuss and wont be providing so there no need to further address that issue. 

 

@Tomew2000  if you're wondering about scoring impact, it depends on her utilization. 

If it remains unchanged, there should be very little impact. 

If you wish to further discuss scoring impact, you can start a thread in scoring subforum, but you will need to provide more data about her profile. 

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SarahJo
Established Contributor

Re: Income verification

It will most likely be closed if the information isn't submitted...but I wonder if they will just balance chase her until the balance is paid off and then close, end result is the same however.

With no lates and the balance paid in full the account will appear in good standing and simply closed on the CR. Thornback's suggestion of paying off and closing is a good one if possible and would not put you in financial trouble otherwise.

I have more than once said a "no, thank you," to providing more than minimal financial information. I do understand and respect the bottom line for lenders, but I also understand and respect that I still have a right to privacy in certain matters as well. Please update and good luck!


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Anonymous
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Re: Income verification

 

 


@thornback wrote:

@kerplunk wrote:

I imagine that someone who hasn't filed or paid their taxes in three years would already be red-flagged by the IRS. 


Not if you file simple taxes and are due a refund.  You can go without filing for 3 years in those cases.  Many single filers with no property ownership can do this without penalty  - and many do.  IRS knows whether or not you owe because they receive their own copies of tax docs/taxable income.  


Which would in itself be motivation to file, yes? IMO, whether you owe or are due a refund it's best to file annually. And if you owe, earlier the better to avoid fees. 

 

As per this issue, it seems one should definitely file every year for POI purposes. At least until they loosen up to accept pay stubs as POI. 

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Tomew2000
Regular Contributor

Re: Income verification

They said 14 days. She’s doing her taxes next week, but the timing probably won’t work 

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