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Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??

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Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??

Hey guys. 

 

Some of us our old school, some of us are inexperienced in life. Remember the days when people used to write checks, log the information into a transaction register, and completely avoid overdraft fees, since they didn't have to memorize what they bought by relying on delayed electronic technology? 

 

I finally figured out a great way to use a credit card without spending more than I have in the budget, and I guess it'll sound a little weird, but I think it'll work great for me, and I think other people too, which is why I'm sharing my new idea. 

 

So the point of a transaction register for a checking account (which people should be using anyways) is to avoid overdraft fees and know exactly how much money you have, right? What if I said you could do the same thing with credit cards, but to avoid interest charges instead? 

 

So what I'm going to start doing is paying all of my non-credit card billable items, such as car payment, other credit cards, rent, etc., first while balancing the checking account register when I get paid every week. The amount I have left will go into my Citi Double Cash register with a "weekly budget" transaction ID. Once the "weekly budget" hits $0, I can no longer spend any money that week on my Citi Double Cash Card. This way I know exactly how much money I am able to spend on my credit card without living "beyond my means" while also saving anywhere from $1.50 to $17.00 a month in interest. 

 

I think everyone should do what I've started doing. What do you guys think? 

 

 

 

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??

So the idea is basically:

 

1) Know how much money I have left after other expenses

2) Track how much I put on the credit card

3) ensure 2 doesn't exceed 1

 

?

 

Probably not quite patentable yet!

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Anonymous
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Re: Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??

But it's obviously a difficult task for most people outside of here. Smiley Very Happy

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Anonymous
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Re: Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??

Good for you OP. If that's a method that will allow you to stay in check, then go for it!

I'm fortunate that I'm able to instinctively keep myself in check when it comes to spending.
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sarge12
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Re: Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??

I get a monthly SSDI check and normally withdraw 1500 from retirement funds minus 20% federal tax witholding. Normal income is 3250 total. I employ the KISS budget method. I keep 1000 dollar buffer in checking. I charge every monthly bill that can be paid with cc the day the bill prints...not due date. All bills that can not be paid with cc I pay the day the bill prints with EFT. I PIF every credit card balance at least once a month, but usually twice. If at any time doing this my checking account falls below 1000 dollars, I know to slow down spending. If not, I know I'm OK. I download everything in quicken, pay everything as soon as possible or practical, and just let that 1000 buffer let me know when to slow down. This might be too simple for some, but it works well for me.

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Anonymous
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Re: Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??


@Anonymous wrote:

But it's obviously a difficult task for most people outside of here. Smiley Very Happy


I think its a great idea, hopefully you're wanting to make sure you dont have x amount reporting by statement cut date?

 

What I used to do when I started out with cards (like had more than 5 major CC's), and did not have much money in my high yield checking account,, or a single digit fixed APR card that could act as a line of credit in emergencies, I would just pay off charges as they happened.  Took me a while to figure out that just pushing payments from my checking account was the easiest thing to do.  I know that sounds a little crazy, and some folks here have debated what that looks like to a creditor (like avg payment amt, etc).  Obviously that has had ZERO impact to my card approval (aside from chase 5/24), increases, or profile in general.  I am now to the point where I automatically have every card adjusted to roughly the same payment due date (usually its something simple, like the 1st of the month or anything that week).  I realized I was being a little too obsessive (again no offense, not acting like I have more than you, trust me, I have been there with less cards) but it was not just about tracking spending to the last cent it was to help utilization.  By taking advantage of each cards grace period today, and not paying off each charge as it happens, I end up making quite a bit more in the form of a monthly dividend.  I then shoot that money off to another account for either motif investments, or some type of arbitrage (buying/selling gift cards) that will let my money make me more money.  Unless its some crazy charge that I can't stop obsessing over, or it would cause my card to report above 29% of its limit.

 

Good for you for finding a way to budget that works for you and thinking outside of the box.  I was actually entering each transaction in my ledger then just writing what card it was on.  I am a little old school too lol.  No fancy xcel charts or anything here. I literally dedicate one desk drawer to credit cards for two people.  In that drawer is usually the largest envelope that a particular issuer has sent (ya know they do vary in size especially with BOA).  On the front of the card I write the open date, promo period, post promo apr, future apr reductions, etc.  Any subsequent info sent, or bt offers, or any changes get stuck in there neatly.  I am kinda leaning towards digitizing it though just for backup when traveling (hence my major messup when I paid my delta gold AF a 12 hours late and freaked out over nothing).  A simple chart would have saved me from that embarassment/potential disaster.  I already set up phone reminders for any card with an AF.

 

While we are on the topic, are there any other eccentric things that you do regarding credit/cards/financing that may seem a little quiky to others? I do notice your endearment and consistency with thoroughly reading terms about cards, late fees, penalty apr, etc.  That is something many people toss aside. Not me.


I usually spend an hour a month just going through all the papers, shredding any promo checks that have expried, and try to recycle any envelopes that I can.

 

I will say there is a current exception, since I did go for the shared secure installment loan thing to try to offset my 120 day late error just a tad (which judging by my 70 point increase last summer, scores were all 760 range before apping like crazy, I am not expecting a miracle.  So now I am trying to make sure I have most of my cards paid off by statement cut date.  I have also considered changing all of my due dates so that the statement cut date was around the time as my current due date, but I will worry about that later.  I have to say during a period like this its nice having a few charge cards that don't impact utilization.  And the grace period on those can be longer than 25 days.

 

 


@sarge12 wrote:

I get a monthly SSDI check and normally withdraw 1500 from retirement funds minus 20% federal tax witholding. Normal income is 3250 total. I employ the KISS budget method. I keep 1000 dollar buffer in checking. I charge every monthly bill that can be paid with cc the day the bill prints...not due date. All bills that can not be paid with cc I pay the day the bill prints with EFT. I PIF every credit card balance at least once a month, but usually twice. If at any time doing this my checking account falls below 1000 dollars, I know to slow down spending. If not, I know I'm OK. I download everything in quicken, pay everything as soon as possible or practical, and just let that 1000 buffer let me know when to slow down. This might be too simple for some, but it works well for me.


 I have seen the option to export transactions on Amex.  Aside from them haven't done much digging around. Is that a pretty common feature with the major CCs to download to quicken?  I really wanted to do some financial tracking of things all in one place (specifically cutting back on eating out for a certain somebody that is hesitant to use gift cards with coupons unless I arrange everything which gets annoying).  Hopefully it doesnt involve the use of Mint.  I had so many issues with them in the past I am hesitant to try again.

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sarge12
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Re: Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??


@Anonymous wrote:

 I have seen the option to export transactions on Amex.  Aside from them haven't done much digging around. Is that a pretty common feature with the major CCs to download to quicken?  I really wanted to do some financial tracking of things all in one place (specifically cutting back on eating out for a certain somebody that is hesitant to use gift cards with coupons unless I arrange everything which gets annoying).  Hopefully it doesnt involve the use of Mint.  I had so many issues with them in the past I am hesitant to try again.


In the quicken program, you create accounts for every credit card account, mortgage, checking, etc. You enter all your user names and passwords for every one of those accounts. You hit the one step update every few days and quicken logs onto every one of those accounts and downloads every transaction and displays in a transaction register for each account. I have not seen any financial institution that does not work pretty well with quicken. Works in auto update with Citi, Chase, Amex, Cap1, TD bank, State Farm bank, Barclay, Discover etc. Takes 5 minutes to update every single acount and automatic enter in register at the most. You only have to go to the financial institutions website to pay the bill or redeem the rewards. I pay everything EFT...never write a single check, and have not bought a stamp in years. I have used quicken for years, backup quicken file 3 times a week and have the program on 3 computers...yes, sort of OCD about backup files for quicken  It can be password protected within the quicken data file to require password to open. I can not imagine doing home finances without it.

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sarge12
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Re: Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??

screenshot of 1 credit cards register in quicken....the att charges were due to changing services to save money. You have seperate register each card.

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Anonymous
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Re: Isn't this a proper way to use a Credit Card??

jfriend33,

 

I guess I have two answers to your question. I know the terms of my own cards because that's just the responsible way to do things when you're almost obligated to do something for business purposes. If I want to carry a balance, I'll want to know off the top of my head which card would be best to do that on, which is obviously the one with the lowest APR that I don't use for my everyday spending in order to keep my finances organized. None of my cards have annual fees so it's a pretty simple thing to remember. Penalty APR's I'm not worried about because that's a result of extreme irresponsibility, which isn't what I'm all about with cards anymore. 

 

When I reply to someone on here about a specific card, I usually look up the terms of the card we're talking about. I usually don't know their terms off the top of my head, but I also use the research as an informational reference in case I want to apply for that card in the future. 

 

Outside of using a transaction register to keep track of expenses and avaliable funds, I'm not really sure what other quirky things I do in order to balance a budget or save money. I guess I take my 2% rewards and throw it into a savings account, which then might end up invested, but not usually. I don't like to keep my rewards stacking up month after month through the credit card's/lender's website, because the lender can take those rewards away at any time, or they can "lose" them or close your account and take them away from you whenever they please. 

 

Having only five credit cards, it's pretty simple for me to pay attention to what the terms are on every one.

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