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Probability of a Balance Chase?

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Anonymous
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

Good plan but instead of 70%, then 60%, etc, go for 67%, then 47%, 27%, 7%. You’ll cross scoring thresholds that way and should still stay under them after interest is added on the ensuing statements.
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pi-r-squared
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

Ok, then my next regular big payment to Barclay will bring it around 67%. It’s at 71% right now. The card I wanted to go after next is at 92.6% and the last one is at 89.6%. You’re saying get the first one to 67%, then pay minimums on it and work on the 2nd and 3rd ones to get to 67%. Once they’re all around that mark, slam the 1st one until 47%. Wash, rinse, repeat?

Or apply an entire $2500 to Barclay and make it 8%, then make minimums on that while getting the others to 67/67, 47/47, etc..?




Message 22 of 35
Revelate
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

Stop worrying about scoring. Stop worrying about what lenders might do.

If you aren’t snowballing (and being blunt that is a psychological crutch) mathematically getting out of debt the fastest is always pay the highest APR one off.

Be focused and smart, you had the right plan originally don’t be distracted. You have a pile of debt, don’t make it even worse than it already is, attack it in the way that saves you the most money in interest.

And to be perfectly honest assuming you have already curtailed your lifestyle, if you are going to be six years in paying off you probably should at least look at a Ch 13 anyway. I would.

Or a second job potentially if you can, that was my own nuke my HELOC balance fast scheme.



        
Message 23 of 35
KJinNC
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

Yes, he is suggesting taking all cards down utilization tiers together, to reduce odds of being balance-chased, and that is good advice in terms of avoiding being balance-chased.

 

But what some of us are saying is, being balance-chased is a lot less important than reducing how much of your budget is going to credit card interest, so, forget about that for now. You can sort that out later. I would pay down whatever is the highest APR until it is gone, then pay down the highest APR remaining until it is gone etc. Ultimately, you want to pay $0/month in credit card interest or very close to that. If you reach that point, the limits will take care of themselves, your scores will be higher, your DTI will be favorable, and they'll increase your credit limits again.

 

If the APRs are all about the same, then I suppose paying them all off together wouldn't be a bad idea, I just think paying less in interest is by far the most important thing right now, more important than credit scores, credit limits, credit cards. Good luck!



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Message 24 of 35
pi-r-squared
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

Barclay has 21.24% APR. The other 2 are 15.24 and 15.15




Message 25 of 35
SBR249
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?


@KJinNC wrote:

Yes, he is suggesting taking all cards down utilization tiers together, to reduce odds of being balance-chased, and that is good advice in terms of avoiding being balance-chased.

 

But what some of us are saying is, being balance-chased is a lot less important than reducing how much of your budget is going to credit card interest, so, forget about that for now. You can sort that out later. I would pay down whatever is the highest APR until it is gone, then pay down the highest APR remaining until it is gone etc. Ultimately, you want to pay $0/month in credit card interest or very close to that. If you reach that point, the limits will take care of themselves, your scores will be higher, your DTI will be favorable, and they'll increase your credit limits again.

 

If the APRs are all about the same, then I suppose paying them all off together wouldn't be a bad idea, I just think paying less in interest is by far the most important thing right now, more important than credit scores, credit limits, credit cards. Good luck!


I disagree with some of what's said here. Yes, it's important to minimize interest. But it is also important to preserve flexibility especially when you are planning things out 6+ years. A lot can happen in 6 years. Doing things in phases by rotating the balance being tackled so that all cards decrease util at about the same rate means that the OP will have flexibility at an earlier stage for things like a debt consolidation loan, which can likely reduce the overall interest paid when all is said and done.

 

True, being balance chased is not really a pressing concern and maximizing scores is secondary to actually paying down debt and saving the interest charges. But, paying down debt in a way that both addresses the debt and optimizes your credit profile as quickly as possible gives a person more options in future financial decisions. It is best to plan for the long term even when in debt rather than just looking at the debts immediately in front of you to the exclusion of everything else. So while I agree that in general, tackling high interest debt is a priority, it is not the only consideration. 

 

Edit: I think given that the OP's other two APRs are so close, it makes even more sense to rotate paying them off in phases. 

Message 26 of 35
pi-r-squared
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

So many choices but they end up eventually doing the same. Paying down debt, so, here is the original question but disregarding the balance chasing part.

I’m gonna have an additional $2500 to apply toward the 3 CCs that I am currently not using. One has a balance of $2800 (71% util) but APR 21.24%. The others have lower APRs but near 90+% util and very high balances. The $2500 toward Barclay will make a huge reduction in util (from 71% to 8%) but paying $1250 each to cards 2 & 3 won’t have that dramatic an impact. Card 2 will reduce from 92.6% to 80.1%. Card 3 will reduce from 89.5% to 85.7%. So, armed with this info, suggestions?




Message 27 of 35
Anonymous
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

Glad to see you finally gave up worrying about the balance-chasing. Now you need to stop worrying about your scores as affected by utilization. The scores will correct themselves later, forget worrying about that!!! Use your money to maximize getting yourself out of debt!! Pay the minimum on the 2 lower APR cards and put everything else on the high-interest Barclay, to save money! No-brainer! Save $ on interest. Scores will self correct later.
Message 28 of 35
Anonymous
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

 

If you're saying that you'll have ann additional $2500, on top of whatever else you have. Then I would just put Barclay's out your misery and pay them off. Then whatever is left apply to the next highest rate card, and on from there. I didn't realize the interest rate was that high.

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Anonymous
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Re: Probability of a Balance Chase?

Yeah Barclays has some super low APRs, but they have plenty of high ones as well
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