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Thank you for visiting! Here is a quick run through of my credit history.
I have 11 cards (HORRIBLE, I know).
My question is, does it fear lenders that I have that many open accounts? Do they really care?
If so, should I consider closing some?
I applied for Discover and the gentlemen at recon. department told me to call back once my credit report shows my balances paid off (which they are now) so they can open an account with me.
I would just like my foot in the door with some prime cards so I don't bother with stupid First Premiere, Orchard, and all those loser ones, am I making the right choice of considering closing them?
Some insight would be great!
American Express Zync - No Preset - 4 months.
Bank of America - Secured $300 - 4 months
Bloomingales - $300 - 1 year (Considering Closing?)
Capital One - $750 1 Year
Capital One - $500 4 months (Closing?)
Citi - $1,300 2 years
First Premier Bank - $350 1.5 years (Closing?)
Hooters - $500 6 months
Nordstrom - $2,500 1.5 years
Orchard Bank - $420 1.5 years (Closing?)
Wal*Mart - $500 4 Months (Closing?)
Wells Fargo - $700 4 Months
Thank you again!
Be sure to read Closing Credit Cards
If there's no fee to keep it open, I'd leave them open and use them 2-3-4 times a year to keep them active.
ETA...I have 15 open and active CCs.
I'm a fan of housekeeping and a tidy wallet with only good cards, even if it slightly bites the FICO 10 years from now. I'd get rid of all the ones you have makred to close, plus the Hooters card. Otherwise, the other ones look good.
I'd personally go with that plan.
You have 6 cc's that are 1 year or older. And you're considering closing 3 of those? In the short term it won't hurt your AAoA, but closing your oldest cards with such fresh new cards (and addint another new card) isn't going to help your AAoA in the long run. As previously posted, if it's got an AF, keep it until the fee comes due, call to cancel (keep if they waive the fee).
If you're concerned about managing to many cards, you can always sock drawer it (or even cut them up) but keep them open. CCC's can take some time before closing an account due to inactivity, but it's not hurting you at all to keep it open in the meantime. Closing the cards also lowers your available credit and you have to watch more closely what you allow to report on the rest of the cards. With such a short account history (with CC's at least), closing your oldest cards just seems like a bad move. Let them age a bit more and then close them.
If the cards not in use set them loose!
If you do decide to close cards, my vote is to do it one step at a time. You'll probably want to monitor them to be sure all's closed and paid off neatly. Especially the FP if they have monthly fees.
Keep the Walmart open if you want free access to your FICO TU scores - that's a new service and you might want to keep it.
If the FP has monthly charges in addition to the annual fee, you may want to close it quickly. You've grown past needing them.
You have a lot of new accounts and a lot of new apps - I can see why you're wanting to simplify things a little. Do keep track of your AAofA and consider letting up on the app button and let things settle down a bit. Then when you do app, you'll be looking better to your potential issuer with a little more age and fewer new accounts open - that can result in higher CL's and/or lower APRs.
And in answer to your question, yes FICO does watch how many open bank/national CC accounts you have (it appears that store cards are not included in this count). It's FICO code #4 "Too many bank or national revolving accounts). These accounts do not need to have balances to impact scores. I have to say that you'll very rarely see anyone bring up this FICO code from their myfico reports. One poster did get this code with 6 such accounts, and one of his creditors closed his CC account based on that information. But that was a while back when CC issuers were pretty darn testy.
Thanks again for everyones reply, I REALLY appreciate it!
Orchard is the only one who charges me an AF.
First Premiere does charge me as well, but when I go to cancel it, they waive the AF fee. Though I do think I pay a $7 monthly fee?
Bloomingdales (Macys) does NOT report my credit limit, so would that really matter?
Most of the cards I want to close do generally charge an annual fee, but my fear was losing that AAoA, should I just keep them open but use them 1-3 times a year to keep them active, and once I get my prime cards, to just close the others out?
Thanks again!
@grigorexxxcore wrote:Thanks again for everyones reply, I REALLY appreciate it!
Orchard is the only one who charges me an AF.
First Premiere does charge me as well, but when I go to cancel it, they waive the AF fee. Though I do think I pay a $7 monthly fee?
Bloomingdales (Macys) does NOT report my credit limit, so would that really matter?
Most of the cards I want to close do generally charge an annual fee, but my fear was losing that AAoA, should I just keep them open but use them 1-3 times a year to keep them active, and once I get my prime cards, to just close the others out?
Thanks again!
You can close those cards and you won't see an immediate impact on your AAoA. It will stay the same as long you DO NOT open any new accounts. Closing the account doesn't erase the account's history. The account will stay on your reports and continue to factor into your AAoA for 10+ years from the date you closed the account. I only stress that if you close these accounts, you shouldn't app for more credit as that will lower your already low AAoA.
If the bloomingdales doesn't report the limit, it won't factor into your UTIL so don't worry about that card. I haven't used my Macy's card in 6 months because of how they have been running their purchase procedure....still open...still reporting. You don't necessarily have to use the cards you are considering closing, they'll stay open for a bit before they are closed due to any inactivity. But just know that closing them tomorrow won't lower your AAoA as long as you wait before apping for any new credit. Let the history age before you try for a new card.
@grigorexxxcore wrote:Thanks again for everyones reply, I REALLY appreciate it!
Orchard is the only one who charges me an AF.
First Premiere does charge me as well, but when I go to cancel it, they waive the AF fee. Though I do think I pay a $7 monthly fee?
Bloomingdales (Macys) does NOT report my credit limit, so would that really matter?
Most of the cards I want to close do generally charge an annual fee, but my fear was losing that AAoA, should I just keep them open but use them 1-3 times a year to keep them active, and once I get my prime cards, to just close the others out?
Thanks again!
What is wrong with 11 cards. I don't think that is high.
I would close the First PRemiere, $7 a month is still very high for that card.
I would consider keeping Orchard if the AF is not too high or you can get them to waive it. They are being sold and you may end up with a better bank (might not). I'd wait and see.
I don't see any reason to close any others.
Orchard is a hefty $79 a year for their annual fee. I tried to waive the fee and it was a no-go. Not sure if I did something wrong?
I always thought that 11 might seem too much in general, but insight if open revolving accounts make a huge difference.