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Strange Citi message for CLI

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AverageJoesCredit
Legendary Contributor

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI

+1 GmoodSmiley Happy. If i made the money that some do , i'd use the heck out of my cards and not care about what gets reported so long as i make the payment when its due. But the numbers game can be more Monopoly for some than Xbox lolSmiley Wink

As for Citi, yeah they can be odd ducks. That last cli, or actually 1st ive ever received by request, went from sp language to hp language, to denial, to approval and hp language showing at time. Now i got sp language but if course if it aint 6 months, Citi wants no part in my gameSmiley Wink
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NRB525
Super Contributor

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI


@Anonymous wrote:

@Gmood1 wrote:
Citi probably didn't know they were dealing with the one and only Brutal body shots! Eh..it's only one HP BBS. They'll warm up to you. Some of you guys need to chill on playing with the numbers and let your usages report from other lenders. I don't believe for one minute Capitol One is the only lender looking at customer's usages with other lender's accounts.

I get that, but it's probably the one factor that will keep me from hitting 850 until this time next year, which was something I was looking forward to.  At least if I had a killer limit on my Citi card, it would have been a fair tradeoff for not hitting my score goal in X amount of time. 

 

What do you mean with letting usages report from other lenders?

 


BBS, what range are your scores in now?

High Bal Jan 2009 $116k on $146k limits 80% Util.
Oct 2014 $46k on $127k 36% util EQ 722 TU 727 EX 727
April 2018 $18k on $344k 5% util EQ 806 TU 810 EX 812
Jan 2019 $7.6k on $360k EQ 832 TU 839 EX 831
March 2021 $33k on $312k EQ 796 TU 798 EX 801
May 2021 Paid all Installments and Mortgages, one new Mortgage EQ 761 TY 774 EX 777
April 2022 EQ=811 TU=807 EX=805 - TU VS 3.0 765
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Benzman
Frequent Contributor

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI


@Gmood1 wrote:
Not this time around. I took a HP earlier this month for an AAdvantage CC. The last time I took a HP for a Citi CLI, I got a $16k increase. The HP can be worth it. Shoot high if you decide to take the HP.

Went for the HP, asked for 10K, only got a 1K increase, so now at 8.3K. Pull on EX and definitely not worth it, but still appreciated. Email says the amount currently is the maximum amount of credit their policy will allow.

Amex CM 10K | Amex ED 10K | Amex BCE 7.5K | 5/3RD SU2C 10K | 5/3RD SU2C 6.5K | Barclays Cash 6K | Barclay AARP 8K | Bread AMEX 14K | Bread NFL 10K | Citizens Cash 8K | Citizens Clear 5K | Citi® DP 11.3K | Citi® Simplicity 9.4K | Citi® TY 6.5K | Citi® DC 4K | Citi CuC 3.4K | Cap One QS 14.6K | Cap One QS 11K | Discover It 19.5K | Discover Miles 13.5K | Brooks Brothers Visa 14.5K | BOA Cash 13.2K | BOA 7K | US Bank State Farm Visa 4K | US Bank AMEX 22.5K | US Bank Plat 16.5K | US Bank Cash 11.2K | FNBO Rewards 20K | FNBO Evergreen 11.3K | Huntington Rewards 1.4K | Huntington Voice 13K | Huntington Voice Rewards 14K | PF|CP Rewards 8.2K | PF|CP Gold 3.2K | PNC Cash 15K | PNC Core 15K | PNC Points 8K | Fidelity 15K | Wells Active 12K | Wells Reflect 10K | Target MC 12.5K | TD Cash 4.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Synch Premier MC 11.6K | Ebay MC 10K | Apple Card 6K | Deserve Digital 6K | Simon AMEX $500 | Chase Amazon 1.5K | F8 Scores 1/25 EX789; TU781; EQ792.
Message 13 of 29
Gmood1
Super Contributor

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI

Did you request an increase on your other Citi card as well? I've never tried combining CLIs on one pull with them before. Because until this month I ony had one card with Citi.

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Credit-hoarder
Valued Contributor

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI

My CDP is about 15 mos. old. It's still in the 0% int. phase but will be my second lowest APR of all my cards at 12.24% when it ends in May. I took the HP for a CLI last night and haven't heard back yet. It started at $1.8K and a year ago I took a HP to get it to $6K where it currently sits. I aimed high and asked for $20K knowing I won't get it but they may counter. I'd be happy if it went to $10K or any other 5-digit number. We will see. BTW this was only my 3rd HP on EQ in a year--score 686 F8.

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Benzman
Frequent Contributor

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI


@Gmood1 wrote:

Did you request an increase on your other Citi card as well? I've never tried combining CLIs on one pull with them before. Because until this month I ony had one card with Citi.


Tried just SP on 2nd card, declined. Hasn't been 6mo since last. Not gonna chance HP.

Amex CM 10K | Amex ED 10K | Amex BCE 7.5K | 5/3RD SU2C 10K | 5/3RD SU2C 6.5K | Barclays Cash 6K | Barclay AARP 8K | Bread AMEX 14K | Bread NFL 10K | Citizens Cash 8K | Citizens Clear 5K | Citi® DP 11.3K | Citi® Simplicity 9.4K | Citi® TY 6.5K | Citi® DC 4K | Citi CuC 3.4K | Cap One QS 14.6K | Cap One QS 11K | Discover It 19.5K | Discover Miles 13.5K | Brooks Brothers Visa 14.5K | BOA Cash 13.2K | BOA 7K | US Bank State Farm Visa 4K | US Bank AMEX 22.5K | US Bank Plat 16.5K | US Bank Cash 11.2K | FNBO Rewards 20K | FNBO Evergreen 11.3K | Huntington Rewards 1.4K | Huntington Voice 13K | Huntington Voice Rewards 14K | PF|CP Rewards 8.2K | PF|CP Gold 3.2K | PNC Cash 15K | PNC Core 15K | PNC Points 8K | Fidelity 15K | Wells Active 12K | Wells Reflect 10K | Target MC 12.5K | TD Cash 4.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Synch Premier MC 11.6K | Ebay MC 10K | Apple Card 6K | Deserve Digital 6K | Simon AMEX $500 | Chase Amazon 1.5K | F8 Scores 1/25 EX789; TU781; EQ792.
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Gmood1
Super Contributor

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI

Ok cool, I see.. didn't realize your other Citi account was less then 6 months old.
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Benzman
Frequent Contributor

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI


@Gmood1 wrote:
Ok cool, I see.. didn't realize your other Citi account was less then 6 months old.

It's about 2 years old, but only about 3mos have passed since CLI SP.

Amex CM 10K | Amex ED 10K | Amex BCE 7.5K | 5/3RD SU2C 10K | 5/3RD SU2C 6.5K | Barclays Cash 6K | Barclay AARP 8K | Bread AMEX 14K | Bread NFL 10K | Citizens Cash 8K | Citizens Clear 5K | Citi® DP 11.3K | Citi® Simplicity 9.4K | Citi® TY 6.5K | Citi® DC 4K | Citi CuC 3.4K | Cap One QS 14.6K | Cap One QS 11K | Discover It 19.5K | Discover Miles 13.5K | Brooks Brothers Visa 14.5K | BOA Cash 13.2K | BOA 7K | US Bank State Farm Visa 4K | US Bank AMEX 22.5K | US Bank Plat 16.5K | US Bank Cash 11.2K | FNBO Rewards 20K | FNBO Evergreen 11.3K | Huntington Rewards 1.4K | Huntington Voice 13K | Huntington Voice Rewards 14K | PF|CP Rewards 8.2K | PF|CP Gold 3.2K | PNC Cash 15K | PNC Core 15K | PNC Points 8K | Fidelity 15K | Wells Active 12K | Wells Reflect 10K | Target MC 12.5K | TD Cash 4.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Truist 6.5K | Synch Premier MC 11.6K | Ebay MC 10K | Apple Card 6K | Deserve Digital 6K | Simon AMEX $500 | Chase Amazon 1.5K | F8 Scores 1/25 EX789; TU781; EQ792.
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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI


@Gmood1 wrote:
If I were a UW and all I saw was $1 reporting on an individual's CC accounts. I'd have serious reservations about issuing them more credit. With no real track record of using it. It's tough to know whether this person will use the tradeline regularly.

I'm not following you here.  What does a reported balance have to do with usage? 

 

It sounds like you're suggesting that someone that follows the strict PIF habits of a Transactor and reports a $0 or very small balance is somehow "worse" than someone that allows higher balances to report.  Maybe you could clarify this a bit?  Behavior that is in line with that of a Transactor results in the lowest risk type of borrower there is.

 

Internally, naturally a creditor can see your spend/payment history on any account you have with them, so what balance reports (even if it's $1) really isn't relevant if you spend is considerable every cycle.  Are you simply saying that for an outside creditor with which one has no history with that it would be a better "look" to have higher monthly balances reported? 

 

With the use of trended data, one would be able to see what the amount of each monthly payment is.  For now on credit reports, this field seems blank most of the time, at least with revolvers.  If trended data isn't used, can a potential lender really determine what you're paying every month?  Perhaps your monthly reported balances are $150, $300, $200, $400, $275, etc.  There's no way of knowing if this person has purchases/payments that are say $800 a month or $8000 a month just based on reported balances, is there?

 

 

Message 19 of 29
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Strange Citi message for CLI


@NRB525 wrote:



BBS, what range are your scores in now?


823-838 pre-Citi inquiry, 823-831 post-Citi inquiry.

 

In 5 months my AoYA will reach 1 year and right around that time I'll be crossing the 7 year 8 month mark which will yield me top tier for AAoA.  I figure those were the two factors holding my scores back a bit, up until I took the Citi HP on EQ, which dropped me 7 points.

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