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Anonymous
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Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection

On the medical collection the balance is $600. Its not that i cannot pay it off, its more that it will be listed as a "Paid Collection" which doesnt do much good. i m aware of many other boards that help in deletion of paid collections. My medical collection is not exactly a "paid collection" just yet.

On medical collections, the date of service will be Sept 05/ 2010. Sept 2014 makes it four years. just how long will it be before it really starts affecting my scores. I m so brand new to this, i m confused.

Yes KOHL's is pretty new and a revolving account, it sure helps in determining Avg Age of Account.  That will indeed be my first ever revolving account. beginning may 2014.

 

Sounds like TIME is my enemy here. My temptation to AppSpree is forever growing knowing fully well 611 isnt really enough, however, i have very little in ways or raising that score without actually applying for a CC; unless ofcourse i want another secure card and wait.

 

 

 

 

Message 11 of 27
B335is
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Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection


@Anonymous wrote:

have been browsing lately, noticed a lot of people here doing app spree with medical collection accounts.I m tempted. My EQ & TU are on freezing as of July 1, 2014.

 

My best FICO score is 611 with EX (as of 6/30/2014; before the zero balance on credit cards).  I have OpenSky (Capital Bank) $250 Secure Credit Card  with one year of on time payments and as of 7/4/2014 balance is $0. the renew date is 7/14/2014 and AF= $50.Is it worth it.

I have a $600 medical collection account whose 4 years SOL ends in Sept 2014. I just got the $300 KOHL's approved last month, paid in full and zero balance. (first month Reported).
I have two Recent inquiries 1) KOHLs (5/25/2014) and 2) Reliant (6/14/14) a utility company along with Cap1(6/2013) and Two Bank of america (10/12).

 

Given that i want to AppSpree only EX and with the recent score of 611 with med acct, will i be approved for a VISA/MasterCard/Amex or wait till 4 years of medical account is out. ? After reading here, the cards i have come to believe pulls EX only are

 

Amex BCE/ Delta Gold Skymiles/ Costco True Earnings Card

 

FNBO Omaha (Platinum Edition Visa)

 

CitiAdvantage (masterCard)

 

Sam's Club (MasterCard) not sure if EX is what it pulls

or

 

Should i end up with another Secure Card with a higher limit than $250 andb wait till that secure card has 6 more months of online payments.  

 

 

 


Sam's will pull TU.  At the risk of sounding blunt, I don't think you have a good chance on any of those cards and would be burning valuable hard pulls.

Message 12 of 27
DaveSignal
Valued Contributor

Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection


@Anonymous wrote:

On the medical collection the balance is $600. Its not that i cannot pay it off, its more that it will be listed as a "Paid Collection" which doesnt do much good. i m aware of many other boards that help in deletion of paid collections. My medical collection is not exactly a "paid collection" just yet.

On medical collections, the date of service will be Sept 05/ 2010. Sept 2014 makes it four years. just how long will it be before it really starts affecting my scores. I m so brand new to this, i m confused.

Yes KOHL's is pretty new and a revolving account, it sure helps in determining Avg Age of Account.  That will indeed be my first ever revolving account. beginning may 2014.

 

Sounds like TIME is my enemy here. My temptation to AppSpree is forever growing knowing fully well 611 isnt really enough, however, i have very little in ways or raising that score without actually applying for a CC; unless ofcourse i want another secure card and wait.

 

 

 

 


The collection will report for 7.5 years from the date of the original missed payment with the OC, unless it is a court judgement (appearing in the Public Records section), in which case it will report for exactly 7 years from the date of the judgement.  It will significantly degrade your FICO score for the entire time that it is on your credit reports.

 

The SOL has nothing to do with credit reporting.  This just means that the CA can no longer sue you for the amount owed.

 

Lenders look at more than your FICO score when issuing new credit.  Although paying the collection may not increase your FICO score, it will improve your prospective risk status in the eyes of the lender who will note that you have no unpaid debts.  It is also much easier to request goodwill removal of a paid collection.

 

If you choose to ignore the collection, you could try things like the shopping cart trick to get another store card or even get a secured card.  But with an upaid collection and a low FICO score, I don't think that you will be approved for any unsecured cards that you will want to keep for very long.  Even with just the Kohls card, however, if you can use this card, pay on time, and keep utilization low, your scores will increase.  Unlike removing a baddie, ageing a new account is not instant and may take 6 months to a year of good payment history before you start to see the benefits.

EX:694 TU:744 EQ:777
Amex ED $19.5k - BoA Travel Rewards $15k - CSP $5k - SDFCU EMV $15k - NFCU goRewards $20k - Barclays Arrival $6.5k
Message 13 of 27
Anonymous
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Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection

@DaveSignal

 

You are absolutely right. 7 and half years of pure hell even if paid but still remaining on credit report. I hope it will not go to a court judgement.

By applying i add insult to injury by adding HardPull Inquires. that can't be any good either.

Paying off the medical collection by deletion is only sure way of seeing better things happen in the near future.

 

My thing is i see so many with thin files, 2+ derogatory and  get approved for $300 in Cap1 or Walmart cards and it burns me up. How am i different? thin file is it?

 

But with Unpaid Collection & low FICO score, I dont think you will be approved for any unsecured card?

My question to that is " what is the right FICO score to apply for unsecured card? have i been right about freezing EQ & TU. Or is it removal of medical collection account and addition of another secure card will boost FICO score?

So from what you say it looks like

a) Remove the baddie/Get it a Paid collection or Deletion.

b) Add another Secure card with a higher limit (minimum $500; $1000 even better); Should i replace OpenSky $250 limit Secure card with $50 AF or not. I m told that Secure Cards requires ChexSystems approval and i have a baddie from October 2012 for $ 400 on it.

c) Stop applying for any unsecured credit cards for until almost december even if i have only two recent inquiries from 2014.

d)Let KOHL's report six consecutive months on time payment history to boost FICO scores

e) If tempted apply for Amazon/Victoria Secret/Comenity Bank cards and see what happens.

f) Do not apply for Capital One Platinum, Quick Cash Back or Citi/ Amex/FNBO/Discover at this time. Wait until December to apply.

g) Not only pay KOHL's card on time, but keep Utilization very very low for nearly six months.

 

This is a Journey. Vow. aint gonna happen overnight. I have seen many get approved in the low 600 FICO scores but thats not all that is looked at these days.

 

dont like this journey at all.

 

 

 

Message 14 of 27
DaveSignal
Valued Contributor

Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection

 

A subprime Cap1 is quite possible.  So is a Wal-Mart card. 

 

For many of the better prime cards, I would shoot for around 680 range, but higher will get better terms and credit limits. 

 

The plan you outlined will work.  

 

Some quick notes though:

  • That medical collection will probably not be hard to get removed if paid or even settled.  This will also have the greatest possible effect on your credit.  It should be a high priority.
  • Not all secured cards pull chexsystems.  In fact, most pull your credit report but have more lenient underwriting criteria since they are secured.  Some, such as SDFCU, don't pull your credit at all.
  • If you want to try for more store cards, try the shopping cart trick (at stores you actually shop at), since you will take no inquiries
  • It will be a good credit practice to keep utilization low and only purchase what you can pay in full by the due date each month.  If you are using the cards often, you may also need to make a payment before the statement date.  This will prevent your score from dropping drastically every month due to high balances reporting (it will go right back up the next month if you report low that month, but you don't want to freak out any current creditors by having maxed out cards and a FICO that is dropping in the 500 range).
  • Rebuilding does take time, but you can do it.  There are many members here, including myself, that have had success in getting the credit that they wanted even after charge offs and collections.
EX:694 TU:744 EQ:777
Amex ED $19.5k - BoA Travel Rewards $15k - CSP $5k - SDFCU EMV $15k - NFCU goRewards $20k - Barclays Arrival $6.5k
Message 15 of 27
OHWWCB
Regular Contributor

Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection


@Anonymous wrote:

have been browsing lately, noticed a lot of people here doing app spree with medical collection accounts.I m tempted. My EQ & TU are on freezing as of July 1, 2014.

 

My best FICO score is 611 with EX (as of 6/30/2014; before the zero balance on credit cards).  I have OpenSky (Capital Bank) $250 Secure Credit Card  with one year of on time payments and as of 7/4/2014 balance is $0. the renew date is 7/14/2014 and AF= $50.Is it worth it.

I have a $600 medical collection account whose 4 years SOL ends in Sept 2014. I just got the $300 KOHL's approved last month, paid in full and zero balance. (first month Reported).
I have two Recent inquiries 1) KOHLs (5/25/2014) and 2) Reliant (6/14/14) a utility company along with Cap1(6/2013) and Two Bank of america (10/12).

 

Given that i want to AppSpree only EX and with the recent score of 611 with med acct, will i be approved for a VISA/MasterCard/Amex or wait till 4 years of medical account is out. ? After reading here, the cards i have come to believe pulls EX only are

 

Amex BCE/ Delta Gold Skymiles/ Costco True Earnings Card

 

FNBO Omaha (Platinum Edition Visa)

 

CitiAdvantage (masterCard)

 

Sam's Club (MasterCard) not sure if EX is what it pulls

or

 

Should i end up with another Secure Card with a higher limit than $250 andb wait till that secure card has 6 more months of online payments.  

 

 

 


If you're looking for an unsecured card, might I recommend Credit One. Their whole purpose is to help you rebuild credit and while they have a crappy annual fee, they did just that for me. I've had the card for about 2.5 years now and was just approved for Amex, Discover, Chase, etc the other day with 5k credit limits plus and I'm about to close my Credit One. For me, it served it's purpose in getting me to where I am now and it's just up from here!

 

Good luck!


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Message 16 of 27
Anonymous
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Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection

DaveSignal

thanx for the good advice.

About med collection.; i m told that on that med acct the$600 bal arises from the fact that some or most part was paid via charity/financial assistance and that the $600 balance should be writtenoff as " Balanced Billng" which in texas is not allowed if any or most portion of a med acct is paid by insurance/charity/financial assistance/medicaid or the likes. it will be 4 years on sept6, 2014 when the SOL for TX expires so i m going to fight it & have it removed after sept 6, 2014 just sothat a lawsuit wont be filed against me.

Message 17 of 27
Anonymous
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Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection

walmart/storecard/discover it was applied for and denied using TU (424 FICO score). its what i meant when i freeze TU & EQ.

Walmart beginning may 30th, is using a new credit approval system over and above TU FICO scores.

 

which ones are "subprime" capital one cards. not the secured cards is it? QuickSilver, Platinum, are only ones i know.

 

Message 18 of 27
manwoot
Frequent Contributor

Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection

You may have a shot at the Quicksilver One, but I would not go on an app spree with scores that low (no offense).  I'd rather see you not waste a bunch of HPs on cards you really don't have a shot at right now.  Try a PFD on that medical collection.  People in the rebuilding forum would be a good start.


Message 19 of 27
Anonymous
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Re: Wanna app Spree-with Med Collection

well cap1 requires all 3 bureaus open. i need cc to look at only EX (669 Creditsesame; 611 FICO). Barclayscard/Cap1/US bank/Chase/ pre-approval sites said "No" to their sub-prime cards with approval only for secure cards.

 

my best bets using EX are

 

AMEX BCE

Bank of America

First national bank of Omaha (FNBO)

US bank (for secure cards) ; harley davison

CreditOne

First Progress

First Premier

 

 

 

Message 20 of 27
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