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Harvey26
Valued Contributor

Re: Which Card?

@Aim_High We do have verizon but she is on my phone plan so that eliminates the verizon visa, BOA might be an option but she isnt a big BOA fan...

Amex ED: 8K, Macys Amex: 4K , BOA Premium Rewards: 60K , Best Buy Visa: 7K , VACU Mastercard: 11.5K Discover: 25K, Amex Delta Reserve 15k, Apple Card:3.5K, Saks WEMC 16.2K, PNC Cash Unlimited: 20K
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Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Which Card?


@SouthJamaica wrote:

@Aim_High wrote:

The value of TY points for cash, gift cards, or statement credit can be as-high as 1 cpp but is often less, sometimes as little as 0.5 cpp. 


The cash value of TY points is exactly 1 cent.


Thanks for pointing that out, @SouthJamaica.  I don't have a CITI TY-point earning card but I had added a link to a third-party website as you were posting your reply, which I had used to check TY value.

 

It appears that Citi changed the cash value of TY points to 1 cpp in 2022 per >this web article.<   But also, while cash value of TY points on the Premier card is 1 cpp, it may be less on other cards.  (I believe Rewards+ is still 0.5 cpp when redeeming for cash, so this might have led to some confusion in point valuation discussion.)  

 

But yes, for this discussion, points could be cashed-out for 1 cpp, less any lost value from the $95 AF. 


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Length of Credit > 42 years; Total Credit Limits > $947K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 97.5 - AMEX 95.1 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 32 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
Message 22 of 33
Harvey26
Valued Contributor

Re: Which Card?

@Aim_High she has an iphone but she not that savy when it comes to stuff like that. She doesnt use apple pay at all. 

Amex ED: 8K, Macys Amex: 4K , BOA Premium Rewards: 60K , Best Buy Visa: 7K , VACU Mastercard: 11.5K Discover: 25K, Amex Delta Reserve 15k, Apple Card:3.5K, Saks WEMC 16.2K, PNC Cash Unlimited: 20K
Message 23 of 33
Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Which Card?

The more you tell me, @Harvey26, the more it sounds like DM need to product change her Flagship Rewards to a cashRewards, as long as she has a direct deposit.  (Please don't tell me that she doesn't!!  Lol Smiley Tongue

 

Keeping-it-simple sounds like the best approach.  One login for banking and credit card.  No AMEX.  Baseline simplicity rewards.  No mobile wallet.  No AF.  Easy-peasy.  Smiley Wink


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Length of Credit > 42 years; Total Credit Limits > $947K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 97.5 - AMEX 95.1 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 32 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
Message 24 of 33
Harvey26
Valued Contributor

Re: Which Card?

@Aim_High LOL yes she does! NFCU is her primary bank. I think i will write all these good options down and narrow down to one and report back! 

Amex ED: 8K, Macys Amex: 4K , BOA Premium Rewards: 60K , Best Buy Visa: 7K , VACU Mastercard: 11.5K Discover: 25K, Amex Delta Reserve 15k, Apple Card:3.5K, Saks WEMC 16.2K, PNC Cash Unlimited: 20K
Message 25 of 33
AndySoCal
Senior Contributor

Re: Which Card?

@Aim_High  @Harvey26  Sorry I did not scroll far enough down to see the annual fee my error.  So  I remembered seeing some credit unions that had credit cards for gas and groceries

 

There is this card Pen Fed Platinum Rewards Signature Visa  5X on gas 3X on groceries and no annual fee. There would be the joining the credit union etc to do. See the link below

 

https://www.nerdwallet.com/reviews/credit-cards/penfed-platinum-rewards 

 

 

 

 

FIC Scores XPN v8 805 V2 831 (SDFCU) TUC V 8 800 07/25 EFX Bankcard v8 822 EFX FIC0 v8 807 Vantage score 4.0 817 via JC Penney
JC Penney 10/2008 4,700 US Bank Cash 08/2010 12,000 Citibank Custom Cash 5/2015 14,100, State Dept. FCU 06/2023 25,000 02/2024 Redstone FCU Signature VISA 10,000 08/23/2024 Commonwealth Credit Union 15000 07/25 Walmart One 5000 12/04/25
Banking: Lafayette FCU Fortera FCU State Department FCU Redstone FCU Hughes FCU Commonwealth FCU
My personal blacklist Axos Bank, Bank of America, Synchrony Bank Capital One TD Bank Comerica Bank BMO US Bank Wells Fargo
Message 26 of 33
Aim_High
Super Contributor

Re: Which Card?


@AndySoCal wrote:

@Aim_High  @Harvey26  Sorry I did not scroll far enough down to see the annual fee my error.  So  I remembered seeing some credit unions that had credit cards for gas and groceries

 

There is this card Pen Fed Platinum Rewards Signature Visa  5X on gas 3X on groceries and no annual fee. There would be the joining the credit union etc to do. See the link below

 

https://www.nerdwallet.com/reviews/credit-cards/penfed-platinum-rewards 


No worries, @AndySoCal.

 

PenFed Platinum Rewards could be a contender also but I wanted to point out some caveats about this card that might not be readily apparent.

 

  • The card earns "points," not cash back.  So 5x or 3x is not necessarily going to be worth the same as 5% or 3%.
  • Points are not redeemable for direct cash; Points are redeemable for travel, gift cards and merchandise.
  • Travel redemptions normally yield the highest point value, usually about 1.7 cents per point.
  • Value for gift cards and merchandise is normally only 0.85 cent per point outside of special promotions.  So for gift cards, the rewards rate for gasoline is 5x (times 0.85) = 4.25%.  And the rewards rate for groceries is 3x (times 0.85) = 2.55%.  Not a bad return, but worth noting when comparing to cash back. And of course, redeeming for gift cards is less convenient and there is a small incremental "opportunity cost" on the gift card in lieu of earning additional rewards on that spending and then taking the cash.
  • Rewards expire in five years if not claimed, unlike the PenFed Power Cash Rewards and other cards where they never expire as long as the account is in good standing.  Program Rules link.

 


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Length of Credit > 42 years; Total Credit Limits > $947K
Top Lender TCL - Chase 156.4 - BofA 99.9 - CITI 97.5 - AMEX 95.1 - NFCU 80.0 - SYCH - 65.0
AoOA > 32 years (Jun 1993); AoYA (Oct 2024)
* Hover cursor over cards to see name & CL, or press & hold on mobile app.
Message 27 of 33
Harvey26
Valued Contributor

Re: Which Card?

@Aim_High DM decided to just keep Flagship card for now.

Amex ED: 8K, Macys Amex: 4K , BOA Premium Rewards: 60K , Best Buy Visa: 7K , VACU Mastercard: 11.5K Discover: 25K, Amex Delta Reserve 15k, Apple Card:3.5K, Saks WEMC 16.2K, PNC Cash Unlimited: 20K
Message 28 of 33
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Which Card?


@Aim_High wrote:

  • Travel redemptions normally yield the highest point value, usually about 1.7 cents per point.
  •  

 


I know they say this but has anyone actually experienced it?   When I do limited checks on my account, it's much close to the 0.85 c figure.   Maybe some redemptions really are double that.

 

If it really was 1.7cpp,  as it's uncapped on supermarkets, you could be getting 8.5c per $ (supermarket) spent, without any transfer hassles, which would be good!

Message 29 of 33
Harvey26
Valued Contributor

Re: Which Card?

@Aim_High Update: DM is eyeing the CSP. She is in her "Travel Lady" era lol Probably will pull the trigger she is really loving the 1:1 Point Transfer. 

Amex ED: 8K, Macys Amex: 4K , BOA Premium Rewards: 60K , Best Buy Visa: 7K , VACU Mastercard: 11.5K Discover: 25K, Amex Delta Reserve 15k, Apple Card:3.5K, Saks WEMC 16.2K, PNC Cash Unlimited: 20K
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