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C/O gone w/o aging or pmt-next step before it's back?

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lowspender
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C/O gone w/o aging or pmt-next step before it's back?

Mods please move to credit rebuilding board unless this is appropriate here, I posted with multiple tabs open, in the wrong board.

 

I have a prior thread on this, but it's about 8 months old and was hard to follow- this is an update I didn't expect.

There has been an inconsistency in how a  C/O for a student loan reports- only to 2 of my CR's. It's a few years old, began after my missed payment caused them to send it to collections, despite me trying to fix that right away.

Almost a year later, it was reported as a chargeoff, after the 2nd collections agency (they wanted pif in 6 months, which I couldn't do), at the end of '22. A few months later, it showed up on TU and EQ as a c/o, and that's where it has been, until recently. Never showed on EX.

 

TU had shown up like a c/o sold to collections, with unpaid status & $0 balance. EQ still showed the full amount. TU had almost a year older reporting date, which I learned on here was not uncommon, for c/o's to stop updating. Screenshots of each, posted.

 

Now, nothing shows up on any of my 3 CR's. Only 1 ss but it's how they all look. I have not heard from any collection agencies in the meantime.

 

The original collections attempts came 6+ months before the c/o reported, but I have not heard from anyone this year. The c/o stopped reporting to TU in August, I think. 

 

Can I reach out to the school and make an offer to pay the debt? If I pay that before it shows on my report again, would they be able to report it as a c/o again?

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lowspender
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Re: My C/O disappeared w/o aging off or pmt, was the debt sold/next steps?

Current status is first pic, which is how all 3 CR's now look. Next two are how EQ and TU looked earlier this year.

 

 EQ no CO.jpg

 

 

 

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FicoMike0
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Re: C/O gone w/o aging or pmt- debt sold/next steps?

Lucky you, the baddies went away!

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lowspender
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Re: C/O gone w/o aging or pmt- debt sold/next steps?


@FicoMike0 wrote:

Lucky you, the baddies went away!


haha, they definitely did not and I'm sure they will return. I've experienced some partial reporting that could be summed up as "bank error in your favor" in the past, but this is a step beyond that. That said, would I have grounds to dispute the accuracy of them on my report, if they reappear after I have paid it off already? I am going to app for a card to put it on, but wanting to know steps to take or what to say to them, so I can move quickly on this.

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Tdatb64
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Re: C/O gone w/o aging or pmt- debt sold/next steps?

The school shouldn't be able to do anything for you. The debt was sold by the financial institution that extended the loan in the first place. They, also, can't do anything for you as they no longer "own" the debt. You may be able to call the last collection agency and ask who they sold the debt to but I doubt they'd tell you. You'll likely just have to wait 'til the new "owner" contacts you and hope you can come to terms that will allow you to close it out so you don't end up with another charge-off.

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lowspender
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Re: C/O gone w/o aging or pmt- debt sold/next steps?


@Tdatb64 wrote:

The school shouldn't be able to do anything for you. The debt was sold by the financial institution that extended the loan in the first place. They, also, can't do anything for you as they no longer "own" the debt. You may be able to call the last collection agency and ask who they sold the debt to but I doubt they'd tell you. You'll likely just have to wait 'til the new "owner" contacts you and hope you can come to terms that will allow you to close it out so you don't end up with another charge-off.


Some missing info you're going on, which is my fault, due to a misleading title.. I wasn't quite sure how else to phrase it. So the info gap here is.. there is no outside financial institution, as a loan was never taken out, federally or privately. I've heard it called a "tuition loan." Basically timing was poor, for my final semester bill, and I simply wasn't able to pay when they sent it. I worked while in school and paid each semester as it was due. Not one of the typical ways student debt is held though, I know.

 

So, the school was the orignal holder of the debt, and if they are to be believed, still do. There were some increases in the amount, because in the fine print, when enrolling, you agree to pay a certain fee/sum to collection agencies for attempts to collect, in the event that you don't pay what's owed. I don't recall reading that but I definitely wasn't looking for that, or planning to be in this situation.

 

So, the name that is blurred out is the school, not a collection agency. Other details to note, which I am now questioning, given this "disappearance."

 

On my last long call with the school, nearly a year ago, the department rep (perhaps head of, though I'm sure she has a boss) said..

-the debt stays at the university forever, they never sell it to a creditor

-they do not negotiate the debt at all (neither of the collection agencies offered that option either)

-must be a single payment (they said multiple payments put them at risk of a chargeback/dispute, but a single charge did not). That makes no sense to me, and is one reason I questioned her knowledge of the topic.. multiple charges may look more unusual, but a single charge is certainly disputable

-they don't offer pay for delete, but would've, if I had worked with the collectors (which the collectors firmly non-answered & referred me back to the school for an answer, which didn't help).

 

Given premise 1 and 4, I am simply.. confused. Their reporting has not been uniform in which bureau receives the info (2/3) and how often the c/o updates on each, so maybe it's not a stretch to think that it was removed entirely, and could reappear? Although it would legally have to retain the same DOFD, I learned on here.

 

So, should I assume it will reappear, try to pay it, and then there won't be anything to be re-reported? Of course I don't want to call and tell them it's gone and ask why, to have that change.. I only want to call with plans to pay right then, before anything changes. I'm assuming also that if it reappeared after that, there would be grounds to dispute it? That's my next question on this, but I'll let this info be processed first..

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Tdatb64
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Re: C/O gone w/o aging or pmt- debt sold/next steps?

Hmm, strange... If the school is the creditor, never sells the debt, and will only accept payment-in-full, I would expect that they dig up their old unpaids every so often and send them in bunches to collection agencies they hire to recover for them. I couldn't say how or when it will show-up again. As for it only affecting 2 of the Big 3, that's not unusual: there are a number of institutions that only report to 2. Your best bet for your peace of mind and your credit reports would be to pay it off, even if you have to take out a personal loan to do so.

 

Others here are knowledgeable about such things but I'm afraid I'm not. Good luck!

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lowspender
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Re: C/O gone w/o aging or pmt- debt sold/next steps?


@Tdatb64 wrote:

Hmm, strange... If the school is the creditor, never sells the debt, and will only accept payment-in-full, I would expect that they dig up their old unpaids every so often and send them in bunches to collection agencies they hire to recover for them. I couldn't say how or when it will show-up again. As for it only affecting 2 of the Big 3, that's not unusual: there are a number of institutions that only report to 2. Your best bet for your peace of mind and your credit reports would be to pay it off, even if you have to take out a personal loan to do so.


Thanks for your thoughts on this!
yeah That all makes sense. In that picture of digging up unpaids every so often, at what point would they be then removing the c/o, that was already submitted? Doesn't make sense to me. Which makes me wonder if I should accept it as truth, that they never sell the debt, or some of the rest of what they said. I didn't believe anything The collection agency said, but the school I tend to think would not be as intentionally deceptive.

 

certainly planning to pay it.. I don't assume it disappeared, and I don't think the benefit of not paying it is worth the potential for that to show up again.

Question for me is more about timeline if I can wait longer, I would probably pay it all off cash, not using a card.. but I don't know if I can wait for that and maybe I shouldn't even consider that option.

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