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@AnonymousI disputed something on my experian and got a comment on equifax report for some odd reason. Said it was being disputed and did not affect my score.
Correct, because comments have no bearing on score.
It's imperative that everyone understand that comments have no impact on scores. Those that are under the impression that they do simply need to understand the simple fact that alerts and score changes do not need to be related and in this example they definitely aren't ever related.
@Anonymous
It's imperative that everyone understand that comments have no impact on scores.
While formally correct, I find this statement to be misleading. As far as I know (and please correct me if I'm wrong) a comment like "account information disputed by consumer" can cause the account in question to be excluded from fico scoring. While the comment itself does not change the fico score, the exclusion of the account can effect the fico score. Indeed, depending on the account and the rest of the credit report, the fico score can go up, go down down or stay the same.
Suppose for example your credit report only has minor baddies and your oldest account is much older than your other accounts. If an "account under dispute" comment is added to your oldest account (and nothing else changes on your report) your AoOA will drop and mostly likely your fico score will go down.
But if the "account under dispute" comment is added to an account which does not stand out from the other accounts, the fico score will stay the same (or only changes a little bit in either direction).
Correct, but the bottom line is that comments (words) on your credit report don't impact scores.
It's also important to understand that an account under dispute is not the same thing as a comment stating that the ''consumer disputes account information." Such a comment can exist when an account is never actually disputed. I've had at least 3 different accounts suddenly show language in the comment section that "consumer disputes account information..." (one just 5 days ago) and never once have my scores been impacted, meaning that none of the accounts were actually ever disputed/not considered by the FICO algorithm.
@Anonymous wrote:It's also important to understand that an account under dispute is not the same thing as a comment stating that the ''consumer disputes account information." Such a comment can exist when an account is never actually disputed.
Yes, but from what I have been reading, it seems that it is the comment "consumer disputes account information" which actually causes the account to be (at least partially) excluded from fico scoring. So even if the account is not actually disputed, the fico score could change. But I'm not an expert and all my knowledge comes from myfico.com and other website, and I never know what information I can trust. So I certainly could be wrong about this.
@Anonymous wrote:
I've had at least 3 different accounts suddenly show language in the comment section that "consumer disputes account information..." (one just 5 days ago) and never once have my scores been impacted, meaning that none of the accounts were actually ever disputed/not considered by the FICO algorithm.
This is strong evidence that you are right. But if you look at your credit report say from 5 days ago, would you expect the fico score to be different if the account with the comment were excluded? Would any of the scoring parmeters (AoOA, AAoA, Utilization, baddies,....) cross any boundaries?
@AnonymousThis is strong evidence that you are right. But if you look at your credit report say from 5 days ago, would you expect the fico score to be different if the account with the comment were excluded? Would any of the scoring parmeters (AoOA, AAoA, Utilization, badies,....) cross any boundaries?
In my example from 5 days ago, likely not. I did however have this language appear and then be removed a good half-dozen times on two different dirty accounts during my rebuild. In those cases, if my only dirty account was being "ignored" by the FICO algorithm due to a simple comment of "consumer disputes account information" I would have seen my scores jump up 70-80 points during the dispute, as that's the gain I saw once the negative information was actually removed from those accounts and my report was clean.
@AnonymousIn my example from 5 days ago, likely not. I did however have this language appear and then be removed a good half-dozen times on two different dirty accounts during my rebuild. In those cases, if my only dirty account was being "ignored" by the FICO algorithm due to a simple comment of "consumer disputes account information" I would have seen my scores jump up 70-80 points during the dispute, as that's the gain I saw once the negative information was actually removed from those accounts and my report was clean.
Ok. That does prove that I was wrong. But now I have a couple of questions. Suppose an account is actually disputed.
1. Will the account be ignored by the Fico algorithm during the dispute ? Sometimes? All the time?
2. Where on the credit report will it be indicated that an account is actually under dispute ?
Those are great questions, but ones that will need to be answered by someone other than myself. I've never disputed an account, so I know next to nothing when it comes to the ins and outs of disputes. All I have ever seen with my reports are dispute "comments" on accounts and can simply verify that such comments don't impact the FICO algorithm at all. I would be curious to hear from those that have done actual disputes, though.