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QAMngrGirl
Frequent Contributor

Re: Credit Score Reform needed


@Anonymous wrote:

A coined answer is just that. If you take offense to it maybe look into why you take offense to it. Maybe you should search Google prior to taking offense as to why your taking offense?

 

Corporate answers. Coined answers. Their easy and lazy. Blaming me for a flaw in the system is convenient. Saying "you should have known, blah blah blah" is easy and lazy.

 

And while your all on your high horse how about we get back to the topics instead of me? If you will please get off your soap box. None of us can change what has happened to you (or the millions of uninformed consumers you ar speaking of), we are attempting to provide information that could have been found prior to any credit application, and clear up the (quite possible) miscommunications that have occurred thus far. 

 

Topic 1.

Opening a credit card (something advocated by all companies affiliated with credit) lowers your score. Not due to the inquiry, but due to the AVERAGE length of credit history. And no, this isn't common knowledge or even semi common knowledge to the average consumer. It should be.  Individuals concerned with their credit profile can and will research this information, it is available on the first page of Google, typos omitted of course. Those unconcerned past instant gratification do not normally do anything but complain after something negative has happened. Normally the "why me" complex, combined with the "it is not my fault in any way" issue. 

 

Topic 2.

FICO requiring you carry a balance on your CC for a more favorable result than paying your CC in full. Again, FICO does not carry balances on their terms and pay interest to their lenders if they can avoid it, yet they require you to make a poor business decision they themselves would not make. Seams odd and dare I say it, rigged? This has been addressed at least once. Try quoting one of the coined answers and and addressing the reply, instead of repeating it. 

 

Those are the topics on the table. Or we can continue to discuss me.


 

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Anonymous
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Re: Credit Score Reform needed

LOL.

 

Ok. More blame.

 

Has anyone actually commented on the topics or have they blamed me?

 

Feel free to talk about the topics and what responsibility companies have to educate consumers about the products that affect their lives.

 

If you can.

Message 22 of 42
Anonymous
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Re: Credit Score Reform needed

Contrary to your stern beliefs, this isnt about me. Its about the obligation credit companies have to educate their customers.

 

Reform is needed.

 

The system is broken when it is making you make bad business decisions to score favorable.

Message 23 of 42
p-
Valued Contributor

Re: Credit Score Reform needed


CreditReform wrote:...You have an agenda...

I don't want to rain on your conspiracy parade, but I'm afraid you're mistaken.  None of the people who responded to you are employees of Fair Issac; in fact if you read old posts most of us have struggled with how to raise our own credit scores.  The only agenda we have here is to decode some of the confusion, and help each other learn how to get the best benefit out of our own credit.

 

Fico scoring uses past and current behavior to predict future behavior.  It does this to answer one key question for potential lenders:  "How likely are you to pay the money back as agreed?"

 

If your credit history shows you are someone who uses credit (has an active credit card with a balance, a car loan, a mortgage, etc.) and uses it responsibly (always pays on time, pays in full every month, etc.) you are, based on previous data, more likely to successfully pay back a loan as agreed.  If you are new to credit, or recently added credit, you are statistically less likely to pay it back.  Statistically, not personally.  If 9 out of 10 people with your score default, maybe you are the one in ten that doesn't.

 

Just like with life insurance, being in different risk groups means you are treated differently.  Banks will charge more to high risk groups, because a certain number of them will default.  

 

Having good credit is fairly simple; all you have to do is always pay on time, and show a history of using credit responsibly.  And the way to show that is detailed at length on these boards.  If you came to blow off steam and stick it to the man, you're in the wrong place.  But if you want to take hold of the reigns, and learn to win the credit game instead of being a victim of it, you came to the right place.

 

Please feel free to join us, share your experiences, and get some good advice.  Personally, I went from a score in the 500's to one in the 700's with what I learned here.  I had one three hundred dollar credit card and a 19% car loan - now I own a home, have 40 grand in available credit, and my car is at a 1.5% rate.  It can be done.  The first step is taking responsibility, educating yourself, and owning it.

 

On the other hand, if you think the credit game is so unfair, put your money where your mouth is.  There are plenty of websites like Prosper.com where you can lend your own money to people with various scores.  Put your savings on the block...  and start looking at credit profiles.  Decide if you still feel the same once it's your own money on the line.

 

Either way, best of luck, and welcome to the forums.

Message 24 of 42
Anonymous
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Re: Credit Score Reform needed

So much chest beating about "doing your research prior"

 

Ok, heres some research.

 

When googling "Will getting a new credit card lower my score?" This is the 3rd result you get.

 

http://creditcardfly.com/does-getting-a-new-credit-card-hurt-my-credit-score

 

Is ANY of that information REALLY true?

 

They dont even mention AVERAGE credit history affecting your score.

 

Please come back to the real world.

Message 25 of 42
Anonymous
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Re: Credit Score Reform needed

We tried to address your topics and you blew us off as being canned, corporate responses.

 

 

 

 

Message 26 of 42
Anonymous
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Re: Credit Score Reform needed

And the insinuation that I have bad credit,,, LOL - poor form guys.

 

Looking at some of your signatures you would love to have my credit score.

Message 27 of 42
QAMngrGirl
Frequent Contributor

Re: Credit Score Reform needed


@p- wrote:

best of luck, and welcome to the forums.


+1

Message 28 of 42
Gunnar419
Valued Contributor

Re: Credit Score Reform needed


@Anonymous wrote:

Topic 1.

Opening a credit card (something advocated by all companies affiliated with credit) lowers your score. Not due to the inquiry, but due to the AVERAGE length of credit history. And no, this isnt common knowledge or even semi common knowledge to the average consumer. It should be.

 

Topic 2.

FICO requiring you carry a balance on your CC for a more favorable result than paying your CC in full. Again, FICO does not carry balances on their terms and pay interest to their lendors if they can avoid it, yet they require you to make a poor business decision they themselves would not make. Seams odd and dare I say it, rigged?

 

Those are the topics on the table. Or we can continue to discuss me.


On topic #1: Credit scoring is incredibly complex. No ccc could disclose what's going to happen to any individual's credt.

 

On topic #2: Nobody is required to pay interest. If you carry a small balance on a card on the day it reports to the bureaus (usually just after the statement is cut), then pay it in full during the grace period ... no interest charge. The scoring systems like to see balances because that shows people are actually using the credit that's available to them. However, showing a balance does not imply that you have to pay interest.

 

Message 29 of 42
Anonymous
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Re: Credit Score Reform needed

Yes, for what it states, it is all true.

 

Keep looking.

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