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Dave Ramsey

I keep hearing people mention Dave Ramsey and his financial advice. What do you think about this?
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Anonymous
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Re: Dave Ramsey

If you are in debt up to your eyeballs,  I strongly recommend  Dave Ramsey's  Total Money Makeover.  It's great and it works.
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Tuscani
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He is well known and respected.
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Anonymous
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Dave is right on the money. If you've never heard his radio show you'll be introduced some some concepts that will probably be refreshing. They were for me. I especially like how he shifted my thinking about credit. For instance, we get so caught up in materialism and having nice stuff and keeping up with the Jones's that we start to actually believe we need, want or deserve to have things. He simply says, "you deserve it when you can PAY for it." In other words, quit acting like a spoiled brat, work hard and scrimp and sacrifice until you can pay cash. He notes that this was the predominant way of thinking for our parents' generation. Now, we are conditioned to accept debt as a way of life, and it just doesn't have to be that way. I think the dude is brilliant. I am in the Dave camp in principal. But in practice...well, I'm still working on that!
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Anonymous
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I have a copy of his Total Money Makeover, and I haven't totally bought into his line of thinking, but apparently his system seems to have worked for alot of people. He is indeed highly regarded.  A couple things that I haven't bought in on yet are like his opinion on driving an older vehicle rather than buying a new vehicle. I am coming around more and more to his way of thinking, but old habits die hard. Don't be surprized if you read it and think "no way I can do that".   My recommendation would be to see if your local library has the book in its collection. If it doesn't, and you are in a major metro area, you can usually ask that they purchase the book for their collection.  If the book is considered to be useful to others, they will likely order it.  I know for a fact that works in my area.  Anyway, try to borrow it, read it, and take notes.  If you think it is worth continuing with, buy it. It is one of those books that you will find yourself going back to if you want to follow his system step by step.  I just bought it outright and I have gone back to it several times. 
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Anonymous
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Yeah it goes for around $25 at the bookstore but you can buy used ones on Amazon for about $10.   Yeah I agree with the past poster,  there are some things he is a weird on such as living totally with no credit and such.  That part I think he's a little over the top,  but for getting out of Debt,  IMO there is no one better.   It's hard program but getting yourself out of debt is never going to be easier.   His methods make you discipline yourself and puts alot of emphasis on savings, which seems to have become a forgotten notion in this country.    STRONG RECOMMENDATION.
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MM1234
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I agree with all these posts cause they all offer good points.

I have Total Money Makeover and read it complete and it DOES offer some Great concepts that you can use or modify to your levels. The concept is to give you an Awakening and show you what you can do NOW to help you for later. Im not a follow "all" the Rules type of person. I tend to Follow the ones I can and understand about the ones I need to follow later when I can - or - how to modify them to work for me.

The SnowBall Debt idea can work for all. Personally I use Quicken for all my finance tracking and they have a similar one you can use.

I too like to have some of the finer things in life while im younger so this is why I can relate to how some of Daves ideas are great but can easily be modified so Im happy now and STILL paying off and Saving. If a person really needed a car loan I wouldnt get a car loan thats going to lessen your ability to paying MORE on other debt. Also - I would personally would never get a NEW car. Get at least 2-3 yrs old.

As long as you are getting inspired and most importantly, Informed... what the Total Money Make Over is, you can at least be armed with some knowlegde and tweek it to your life and then follow it 100% later on when you can.

Message Edited by MM1234 on 05-11-2007 11:14 AM
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MM1234
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Oh - let me add on to...."about a Car Loan "...

I mean that if currently have VERY LOW debt and all your other Emergency funds and Finances are in check and you dont have the money to pay cash....then, you can consider a smaller loan for the amount you really need.....Maybe like 6-12 month loan and still try to pay that down as fast as you can.

Sorry - I didnt mean to sound like I endorse having a car loan without having all other finances in check.

Message Edited by MM1234 on 05-11-2007 11:16 AM
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Anonymous
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It is hard to buy his "no credit" philosophy, but if you know the logic behind it it makes total sense. Really he's advocating not being in a position where you need credit to bail you out, thus the notion of having 3 to 5 months of living expenses in the bank. Very hard to do, agreed, but if you can pull it off then you are your own backup plan, not Visa. As far as driving an old car, I think he's right. Again, you have to get the entire logic behind anything he says, you can't make judgments based on face value. Here's his logic. An average car payment of $350 paid perpetually (as most people upgrade or trade in before a vehicle is paid off) from the age of 25 to 65, placed instead in a good mutual fund, would make you a millionaire. As he says....hope you like the car! He's not saying to go out and drive a 1977 Pinto. He's saying to buy what you can afford to pay cash for. Here again creeps in the notion that we work hard, therefore we deserve nice shiny pretty cars. I drive 800 miles a week and did so for many years quite comfortably in a 10 year old Accord that was perfectly safe, reliable and not bad looking. And I paid cash for it used. I even have a big gas guzzling SUV for the family, but instead of buying a $45K Tahoe, I bought one that was 8 years old that is just as nice in my estimation. I know this scenario is unrealistic for a lot of people, just wanted to give a little more insight for the benefit of those not familiar with him as to why Dave advocates ditching credit. I think MM1234 is right. If you can find a happy medium then you're doing well. I want a good FICO so I feed the credit monster, for now at least.

Message Edited by devhip on 05-11-2007 11:07 AM
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Great. Seems we all basically agree. I was afraid I was going to be viewed as the negative voice in the forest, and that surely wasn't my intention. The last few posters but their thoughts in words better than I was able to do this time.  Like any advice, it need to be studied to be sure it make sense for you, but Dave Ramsey's book is definetely worth reading.  His thoughts on getting back into savings has really taken root in me.  I took my tax refund of $3000 and put it into a new ING account. Then I changed my deductions so I will get no refund (or a much smaller refund) next year and I have the extra money that was going to the taxman for their use going into my ING account and drawing me 4.5% interest.  I also just opened an Offer 170 account through TDAmeritrade and I will be putting the minimum $50 a month in to get the 4.5+% interest and a $100 bonus at the end of a year.  Next I will be boosting the amount I put into my ING and then boosting it again when the CCs are paid off and then once more when my car is paid off in Nov.  The moral here is that if you buy into the theory (even a little bit), it can be like a fever that spurs you on to do more.  You may find yourself stopping before that next impulse purchase and saying to yourself "Hey Selk, that's $50 you could be drawing interest on in savings".
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