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Dispute with Expedia-Chargeback help

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Dispute with Expedia-Chargeback help


I was wondering if you could help.offer advice, etc.

To make a long story short...the blizzard we had in Feb '10.
Wife and I had a trip booked to London. With the blizzard, flights were grounded for three days. Our plane tickets were refunded from Virgin, and our hotel was refunded from Travelocity, because the blizzard was out of control.
Expedia refused to reimburse art of our package...I filed a chargeback with Amex, and won.
Fast forward until Saturday, I receive a letter from a collection agency for the $493 on behalf of Expedia. We haven't heard from them since the chargeback in March.
1). Is this legit? Can the company try and get money from me after Amex ruled in my favor?
2). My credit score is hovering around 760, and I don't want a collections to go on there. Is there a way to avoid this?

I called Amex. I was on the phone for 40 minutes with them this AM. I talked to three different people, all who said Amex can't do anything. I left a message for someone in the dispute department, but I imagine the same thing will be said.

 

Sorry for my rambling, incoherant sentences. I'm furious right now.

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Re: Dispute with Expedia-Chargeback help

Got a call from Amex. They stated that even though it is against their merchant agreement, they really can't stop what Expedia does.

So...what now?

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llecs
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You are in a situation where there's a legal dispute between you and Expedia. Amex isn't part of that dispute, but they decided, on their own, that there was enough info there not to honor the charge. Since you got a letter from the CA, I would mail them a DV letter and I personally would add a couple of statements within that DV that asks something like "Please include a detailed breakdown of the charges you say I owe" and "Please include a copy of the agreement between Expedia and I that demonstrates the charge you say I owe" or something along those lines. DVs are allowed by federal law, and federally speaking, the CA doesn't have to provide that. However, your state may require that, and if not, it never hurts to ask.

 

Aside from the DV, I would put heat on Expedia and I would send the exec(s) a letter explaining what happened and ask them directly what the charges are for, etc. I would also file a complaint with the BBB and any state-sponsored consumer groups. That'll put some heat and maybe they'll back away.

 

Before doing any of the above, I would read your agreement with Expedia. Maybe the charge is legit, even if you didn't go on the trip. Maybe they require travel insurance. Who knows. But read that agreement.

 

Back to Amex. They aren't a judge and jury on charges. They don't have the final say in anything pertaining to any agreement you had between you and Expedia. They sided with you and decided not to honor that charge.

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@llecs wrote:

You are in a situation where there's a legal dispute between you and Expedia. Amex isn't part of that dispute, but they decided, on their own, that there was enough info there not to honor the charge. Since you got a letter from the CA, I would mail them a DV letter and I personally would add a couple of statements within that DV that asks something like "Please include a detailed breakdown of the charges you say I owe" and "Please include a copy of the agreement between Expedia and I that demonstrates the charge you say I owe" or something along those lines. DVs are allowed by federal law, and federally speaking, the CA doesn't have to provide that. However, your state may require that, and if not, it never hurts to ask.

 

Aside from the DV, I would put heat on Expedia and I would send the exec(s) a letter explaining what happened and ask them directly what the charges are for, etc. I would also file a complaint with the BBB and any state-sponsored consumer groups. That'll put some heat and maybe they'll back away.

 

Before doing any of the above, I would read your agreement with Expedia. Maybe the charge is legit, even if you didn't go on the trip. Maybe they require travel insurance. Who knows. But read that agreement.

 

Back to Amex. They aren't a judge and jury on charges. They don't have the final say in anything pertaining to any agreement you had between you and Expedia. They sided with you and decided not to honor that charge.


Then what is the point of a chargeback when the company can just come after you for the money anyway. Seems like kind of a waste, don't you think?

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@llecs wrote:

You are in a situation where there's a legal dispute between you and Expedia. Amex isn't part of that dispute, but they decided, on their own, that there was enough info there not to honor the charge. Since you got a letter from the CA, I would mail them a DV letter and I personally would add a couple of statements within that DV that asks something like "Please include a detailed breakdown of the charges you say I owe" and "Please include a copy of the agreement between Expedia and I that demonstrates the charge you say I owe" or something along those lines. DVs are allowed by federal law, and federally speaking, the CA doesn't have to provide that. However, your state may require that, and if not, it never hurts to ask.

 

Aside from the DV, I would put heat on Expedia and I would send the exec(s) a letter explaining what happened and ask them directly what the charges are for, etc. I would also file a complaint with the BBB and any state-sponsored consumer groups. That'll put some heat and maybe they'll back away.

 

Before doing any of the above, I would read your agreement with Expedia. Maybe the charge is legit, even if you didn't go on the trip. Maybe they require travel insurance. Who knows. But read that agreement.

 

Back to Amex. They aren't a judge and jury on charges. They don't have the final say in anything pertaining to any agreement you had between you and Expedia. They sided with you and decided not to honor that charge.


+1

 

Unfortunately, the merchant agreement with AmEx does not control Expedia's decision to enforce payment outside of the AmEx venue.  I would follow Llecs advice about contacting the CA and Expedia to try for a solution.

 

One thing you might also do is obtain feedback from AmEx as to precisely what reply Expedia gave AmEx on the chargeback and why AmEx sided against them.  This information might prove valuable should Expedia ever try to sue you over the debt, which I think would be unlikely anyhow. 

 

 

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