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The Futility of Trying to Improve FICO

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yoreljm
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I've been reading your postings. and I understand what yo...

I've been reading your postings. and I understand what you mean about charge-off totally screwing you over. With my charge off, I even got declined for a secured credit card by Bank of America!
 
What i did: I got people to add me to their good accounts, and all their history for those accounts went on my credit. Right now my credit score is 637. And I was able to get new credit, even with the charge off still present on my account.
 
Remember that your debts from 2001 are about ready to drop off your credit report...if ithey do not, dispute them with the credit bureaus. Also, maybe you should try to settle some of your delinquent accounts.
Message 51 of 62
Anonymous
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"Dewey Defeats Truman"

Well ladies and gents, I've actually been meaning to update this thread for quite some time now. Seems like I got the original headline wrong though...because my FICO has been bullish for the past couple months now. So yeah, I may have a big mouth (or a quick pen; "the moving hand, having writ, moves on" but I'm also big enough to eat my share of crow, and I've got to dish myself out a plateful now.

Last year at this time, I was probably in the mid to upper 500s. I had only two positive TLs, one closed. I couldn't get approved for squat. I had a full-blown case of credit leprosy. When credit card companies saw me coming, they'd cross the street to avoid me. When I applied for credit, the credit card providers probably donned anti-radiation gear when they saw my name on the form, and fished the application out of their inbox with tongs. So yeah, I was pretty hot under the collar. I was feeling rather used and abused. Read my early posts in this thread and you'll see what I mean.

Today I got another ScoreWatch...my Equifax, which had probably been around 550 at this time last year, has hit 607 (was 600 at the beginning of the month). My TU, which had likely been in the 570s, is 643 now. My Experian, which last year was in the 580s, was 685 at the start of this month. Actually, my Equifax score chart is looking a bit like Al Gore's hockey-stick chart, having increased 30 points since January.

BofA graduated my secured card, and gave me a $1000 CL. I now have two more unsecured cards (CapOne and Orchard). CapOne is about to raise me from $300 to $500. Orchard I just started with, but mid-summer I'll ask them for a CLI, too.

The last major threat to my FICO was child support. I was $450 behind, and the State was going to report it. At the time, I told them to go fornicate with themselves and hung up--I'd been planning to leave the country anyway. I figured I'd never win the FICO game anyway, so I said to hell with it, let them nuke my credit, all they'd be doing was "making the rubble jump."

But then my Kenyan fiance told me she talked to her pastor, and he told her God had great things in mind for me, that not too long from now $450 would be chump change. He and her both said to just settle this and move on. I resisted the idea at first...the idea of letting the government have anything from me without fighting tooth and nail galled me at a level most people could not understand.

This morning I got a ScoreWatch alert...my FICO jumped from 600 to 607. And I realized after all this time that what I was doing was actually working. The tail was actually wagging the bleeping dog! And what if the African pastor was right, and things for me took off...six months from now would I be kicking myself for letting a $450 debt knock my FICO down again? I thought about the other times in life I'd gotten charge-offs, usually because of the same "to-hell-with-it-ism" that the child support case was giving me now.

So after I got the ScoreWatch, I called the child support people. Paid the arrears in full. It sucks--that was the money I'd been saving, flushed right down the crapper--but I'm now square with them. So there'll be no judgment hitting my CRs later this month. They'll report the child support as an account in good standing. And that will also reduce the garnishment order by about $38 per paycheck, since they'll no longer be garnishing extra for the arrears. And my ex will probably be able to buy the PlayStation 3 and get herself a new video card!

I don't know if I did the right thing. There's a part of me that still thinks I should have given the State the finger, cashed out all my credit cards, and booked myself a one-way flight to Mombasa. When I told my fiance what I did, I thought she'd be angry I spent all that money, but she actually told me I will prosper so much in the next year that $450 won't even matter. This woman has believed in me at times when no one else did--including myself.

I don't know. I'm almost broke now, but I've confirmed that you can, through hard work and knowing the system, and applying a few basic principles, dig yourself out of a credit hole and boost your FICO. As soon as I'm done with this helping of steaming crow, I'll be back to post some more...but I'm going to kick some barbarian butt on Rome Total War for an hour or so to relieve my frustrations. I'd like to thank everyone here who encouraged me, including Barry.

Message Edited by TheNewWorldMan on 05-10-2007 05:00 PM
Message 52 of 62
Anonymous
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Re: "Dewey Defeats Truman"

Bravo. Good for you New World, on numerous fronts. First for seeing your way past your anger so you could get the information you needed. Secondly for using that information to actually make a difference in your FICO score. And third but by no means lastly, for being a big enough man to admit that you may have been wrong.  For the most part, we all make mistakes. Some bigger than others. I would venture to say, that is why most of us are here.  I for one, am very happy for you.  I have not reached my goal of being debt free yet, but what I have achived makes me feel so liberated. You feel the wind under your wings and feel like you can once again fly. Enjoy the feeling. Embrace it. Always remember how good it feels so that you are never tempted to fall into any of the credit pitfalls that areout there.  I wish for you a happy and successful life.  
Message 53 of 62
Anonymous
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Re: "Dewey Defeats Truman"

I am thrilled for you!  You said you don't know if you did the right thing - for what it matters - I think you did and I think a few months down the road when all of your scores near and then hit the big 7-0-0 that you will realize that it was the right thing to do too.   You should be proud of yourself and I hope that your road will be smooth sailing from here on.  
 
Oh, and as for the "crow", anyone who's a big enough person to admit they were wrong has the stomach necessary to eat the raunchy stuff.  
Message 54 of 62
smallfry
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Re: "Dewey Defeats Truman"

Smart move NWM. You did the right thing.
Message 55 of 62
Anonymous
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Re: "Dewey Defeats Truman"

Smiley Wink
New world man you did the right thing in the long run. Plus you gave your fiance happiness, by listening to her you showed her you value her opinion.  She sounds like a wise woman!  May you continue to have good things roll your way...
Message 56 of 62
Anonymous
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Re: "Dewey Defeats Truman"

I wish I could be so sure. For about twice what I paid the child support commies, I could have bought a permanent solution to the whole child support mess: a ticket to Mombasa. 25 hours in the air...San Francisco to New York to Amsterdam to Nairobi to Mombasa. My fiance would have met me at the airport, taken me home with her...

Now I am down to nothing to bring her over here with. Thanks to the government, I may never see her now. So I don't know if I did the right thing here. I may have sunk the only chance for love I will ever have...in this life anyway. If things turn out that way, after a year or so I'll probably just drop out of this society, join a survivalist militia group, and wait for things to crash here. I'll have nothing to lose.
Message 57 of 62
Anonymous
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Re: In my case, it was a few unpaid bills caused primarily by...

This is exactly how I feel too - because you are right - I have ONE issue, and now another old one showed up that is past the SOL but they just listed it again...there are laws against but apparently they are above the law...
 
We all learn from mistakes but with people like the CRs and JDBs we can't find the light!
Message 58 of 62
Anonymous
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Re: In my case, it was a few unpaid bills caused primarily by...

BTW I have disputed the dang debt for two years that keeps hanging.  Glad I read this because I see it can continue to change hands...Smiley Sad  Will just keep plugging away
Message 59 of 62
Anonymous
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Re: In my case, it was a few unpaid bills caused primarily by...

When you do the right thing, the other things will work themselves out. That $450 will come back to you. Congrats on your credit score increases too.
Message 60 of 62
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