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MidnightOwl
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VantageScore

It appears that all three cra's are using VantageScore now. I am on the grade D level at the present time but, HSBC just updated my monthly payment & My score did jump up another 35 points on Transunion. I have Truecredit so, I have to wait until Feb.5 to see how my scores may have increased with Exp & EQ. Has anyone else noticed Vantagescore being used instead of fico now ?
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Anonymous
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Re: VantageScore

Vantage, if I recall correctly, was a score developed in cooperation by all three CRA's, not just one. 

 

 

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MidnightOwl
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Re: VantageScore

Your correct. When I said I have to wait until Feb.5 for Ex & Eq to show scoring, it's because I only get a daily report from TU & I have to wait monthly for the other 2 to show.
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Anonymous
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@MidnightOwl wrote:
It appears that all three cra's are using VantageScore now. I am on the grade D level at the present time but, HSBC just updated my monthly payment & My score did jump up another 35 points on Transunion. I have Truecredit so, I have to wait until Feb.5 to see how my scores may have increased with Exp & EQ. Has anyone else noticed Vantagescore being used instead of fico now ?

The only recent change is that TransUnion's credit monitoring product, TrueCredit, is now packaged with a Vantage Fako score instead of a TransRisk Fako score.

 

The score offered to consumers by Equifax is a Fico score, as it has been for awhile. 

 

As TxJohn said, the Vantage score was developed cooperatively by the three CRAs, and is marketed to lenders as an alternative to Fico scoring models. The CRAs do not "use" credit scores, the lenders do. Generally, a lender will order a credit report from a CRA or reseller and stipulate which credit score they want to have included with the report. You will be hard-pressed to find many lenders actually using Vantage score in their credit approval process.

 

Be aware that changes in your Vantage score from TrueCredit do not indicate that similar changes will occur in your Fico score. In other words, if your score from TrueCredit goes up 35 points, that does not mean your corresponding Fico score will increase 35 points. Different scoring models use different criteria and different weighting. People have frequently reported that their Fako score increased while their Fico score decreased, and vice versa ...

Message Edited by Revike on 01-09-2010 07:34 PM
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Anonymous
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@Anonymous wrote:

@MidnightOwl wrote:
It appears that all three cra's are using VantageScore now. I am on the grade D level at the present time but, HSBC just updated my monthly payment & My score did jump up another 35 points on Transunion. I have Truecredit so, I have to wait until Feb.5 to see how my scores may have increased with Exp & EQ. Has anyone else noticed Vantagescore being used instead of fico now ?

The only recent change is that TransUnion's credit monitoring product, TrueCredit, is now packaged with a Vantage Fako score instead of a TransRisk Fako score.

 

The score offered to consumers by Equifax is a Fico score, as it has been for awhile. 

 

As TxJohn said, the Vantage score was developed cooperatively by the three CRAs, and is marketed to lenders as an alternative to Fico scoring models. The CRAs do not "use" credit scores, the lenders do. Generally, a lender will order a credit report from a CRA or reseller and stipulate which credit score they want to have included with the report. You will be hard-pressed to find many lenders actually using Vantage score in their credit approval process.

 

Be aware that changes in your Vantage score from TrueCredit do not indicate that similar changes will occur in your Fico score. In other words, if your score from TrueCredit goes up 35 points, that does not mean your corresponding Fico score will increase 35 points. Different scoring models use different criteria and different weighting. People have frequently reported that their Fako score increased while their Fico score decreased, and vice versa ...

Message Edited by Revike on 01-09-2010 07:34 PM

+1, although Vantage is a rather good FAKO to be offered. As far as TC is concerned this is a vast improvement - the TransRisk score is utterly worthless. BTW - Vantage scoring favors satisfactory mortgage experience and lots and lots of revolving CL's.

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donkort
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Re: VantageScore

For me, when I took out a mortgage, Chase Bank used "Fair Isaac Model" for Experian, "Beacon 05" for Equifax, and "Classic '04" for TransUnion.  The Equifax and the TransUnion scores were identical to that which was pulled by MyFICO.  The Experian score was 1 point higher than the fako "PLUS score" which I received from the Experian website.   My "Vantage Score," which was lower than any of the FICO scores, was not taken into consideration.
FICO 8: EQ 810; TU 816; EX 822 as of 7/5/2022
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Anonymous
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@donkort wrote:
For me, when I took out a mortgage, Chase Bank used "Fair Isaac Model" for Experian, "Beacon 05" for Equifax, and "Classic '04" for TransUnion.  The Equifax and the TransUnion scores were identical to that which was pulled by MyFICO.  The Experian score was 1 point higher than the fako "PLUS score" which I received from the Experian website.   My "Vantage Score," which was lower than any of the FICO scores, was not taken into consideration.

Yes, that's very typical. Those three Fico scores - EX Fair Isaac Model, EQ Beacon 5.0, TU Classic '04 - are the most common set of scores used by mortgage lenders. 

 

The TU score available from MyFico is actually the Classic '98 version. The fact that it matched the Classic '04 score would be a coincidence. The near-match between the EX Fair Isaac Model score and the EX Plus score would also be a coincidence ...

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haulingthescoreup
Moderator Emerita

Re: VantageScore

The CRA's keep marketing the Vantage score to lenders as an alternative to FICO's, but they're not making a lot of progress. AFAIK, Kohl's is still the only semi-big lender using them (they use the Experian Vantage score.)

The fun thing is that it's the CRA's, not FICO, who set the pricing on FICO scores, so I suppose they could sky-rocket the fees charged to businesses to pull FICO's in order to make Vantage scores more competitive. (Just speculation on my part, btw.) Just goes to show how unwilling business is to change to the unfamiliar, if most still use FICO's.
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