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Why is my fico lower than all others?

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Why is my fico lower than all others?

  Hello all and thanks in advance for your help. The problem I am having is my fico score is a 590 while the other credit bureaus are all between 620 and 639 why the disparity?
 
I had a bankruptcy about 5 years ago. Some collections all have been paid off.  No late payments in over 18 months. I have 2 credit cards one 18 months old one about 4 months. neither close to maxed out. I have one auto loan new 4 months ago. I had a previous auto loan but the car was crap and had to trade it in. That pretty much sums up my credit. Oh wait I do have an insane amount of inquiries showing up on fico though.....15 its only 7 on the others.      This is from me getting the vehicle and then trying to buy a house only for them to say your fico is only a 590 get lost. Dont know if there is anything I can even do but I figured this is the place to find out. Thanks again.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why is my fico lower than all others?

Scores obtained from the CRAs are NOT Fico scores and should be completely ignored.  You can only trust scores obtained from this site.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why is my fico lower than all others?

I understand that with my washington mutual card I can monitor my fico thats how I saw it was a 590.
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Anonymous
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Re: Why is my fico lower than all others?

First, FICO isn't a credit bureau, but rather a scoring method commonly referred to as a FICO score. You have a different FICO score with all three credit reporting agencies (TransUnion, Experian and Equifax).

There are non-FICO scores available from those agencies and others. They are colloquially referred to as "FAKOs" because many people have been confused into thinking they are FICOs. They have roughly the same range, but because of differences in computation, they can be different from FICO scores (sometimes by over a hundred points!)
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Re: Why is my fico lower than all others?



oif3gunner wrote:
I understand that with my washington mutual card I can monitor my fico thats how I saw it was a 590.



Your Washington Mutual score is not the same score you would find on here. While it is a FICO score, it is a PFICO. That is a FICO formula optimized for bank card grantors. Thus, it is not like the "classic" mortgage geared scores you purchase through this site, nor the auto enhanced FICO models many auto lenders use.
 
PFICO emphasizes past history and utilization of your revolving accounts whereas the scores on this site more evenly way installment loans.
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RobertEG
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Scoring is extremely complicated.

FairIsaac (FICO) does NOT directly generate credit scores.  Generating credit scores requires current credit data to run through the scoring algorithm..  Fair Isaac is not a CRA and thus does not maintain current monthly credit data. 

Fair Isaac does have, with contract from the CRAs, access to prior credit data in order to generate and modify their scoring models, but this is not access by personal identifiers (name, SSN) and is not the basis for your current credit score.  So don’t blame FairIsaac for credit report problems.  That is not their business.

FairIsaac develops their scoring models, and sells them to the CRAs, who then run it through their databases and generate a score.  That is what you get from myFICO, and since these are produced based upon the FairIsaac algorithms, they are the only ones that can be called FICO®  scores.

The FICO algorithms sold to the CRAs are not identical.  Each CRA has contracted with FairIsaac for its own scoring algorithm.  There are also different algorithms sold to different industriies, such as mortgage and auto lendors  So a FICO score is never vanilla.  It only substantiates the source of the score as being FairIsaac.

But the rub is that capitalism has spawned others to also generate their own scoring algorithms that are not produced by FairIsaac.  Other vendors, including the CRAs themselves in a joint venture called Vantage scores, may use different scoring algorithms to score their credit data.  Many call these “FAKO scores to distinguish from FairIsaac scores.  Most lendors dont use these.

The primary site that offers credit scores substantiated as being based on the general  FairIsaac FICO scoring model is myFICO.  But even then, it may not be the FICO model or score that  you lendor uses.

So  there are a myriad of both FICO and non-FICO scores on the market, and only the lendor chooses, ultimately, to decide on which product to buy and use.  The vast majority of lendors use FICO scores, but you never know until you ask.

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RobertEG
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Re: Why is my fico lower than all others?

mrscharley, I agree that only scores from FICO are those generated from FairIsaac scoring algorithms, and that FICO scores are the ones used by most lendors, but I dont agree that:
 
"Scores obtained from the CRAs are NOT Fico scores and should be completely ignoredYou can only trust scores obtained from this site."
 
FICO is not the only car on the lot.  The other vendors of scores are not charletans to be totally ignored.  Trust is not the issue.  It is simply what the lendor chooses to use.
I would not advise anyone to "completely ignore" a non-FICO score, or to imply that they are not to be trusted.



Message Edited by RobertEG on 06-26-2008 05:14 AM
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RobertEG wrote:
mrscharley, I agree that only scores from FICO are those generated from FairIsaac scoring algorithms, and that FICO scores are the ones used by most lendors, but I dont agree that:
 
"Scores obtained from the CRAs are NOT Fico scores and should be completely ignoredYou can only trust scores obtained from this site."
 
FICO is not the only car on the lot.  The other vendors of scores are not charletans to be totally ignored.  Trust is not the issue.  It is simply what the lendor chooses to use.
I would not advise anyone to "completely ignore" a non-FICO score, or to imply that they are not to be trusted.



Message Edited by RobertEG on 06-26-2008 05:14 AM


But I thought lenders only use FICO scores, not FAKOs.
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