cancel
Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Did you mean: 

Charge Off advice

tag
Anonymous
Not applicable

Charge Off advice

Hello all! Been somewhat of a lurker of the board and finally became a full member of board the monitoring and community as I need to rebuild properly. 

 

I've recently been able to payoff all my collections which should be deleted soon as stated by CAs. However I have 2 charge offs showing as closed accounts on my report. One is there but says last reported in Oct 2016. The other however was last reported this month. 

 

The one still reporting is First Premier. It's reporting as "charged off as bad debt, loss to credit grantor". The issue I'm having is they are the OC and continue to report but True Accord is the CA and have been reaching out to me by email. True Accord has offered me a settlement to close the collection but they state clearly on their website they dont report. I can afford to pay the settlement or pay in full. I'm just not sure how to get the CO removed and who to pay. 

 

Any advice with this would be greatly appreciated. I'm learning slowly but surely and don't want to make any preventable mistakes. 

Message 1 of 15
14 REPLIES 14
Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Charge Off advice

OCs almost never remove their accounts. You would need to get First Premier to recall the debt and then negotiate a PFD.

    
Message 2 of 15
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Charge Off advice


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

OCs almost never remove their accounts. You would need to get First Premier to recall the debt and then negotiate a PFD.



It would appear I haven't learned as much I thought because I'm unaware of having an OC recall debt. I will do a little research on that topic. Thank you for your suggestion. 

Message 3 of 15
GrandBay
Frequent Contributor

Re: Charge Off advice

@Brian_Earl_Spilner  trying to find your Macy's & Nordstrom threads.

Message 4 of 15
Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Charge Off advice


@Anonymous wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

OCs almost never remove their accounts. You would need to get First Premier to recall the debt and then negotiate a PFD.



It would appear I haven't learned as much I thought because I'm unaware of having an OC recall debt. I will do a little research on that topic. Thank you for your suggestion. 


It's simple. Occasionally, an OC will hire a CA to collect resulting in 2 credit report entries for the same derogatory event. In order to remove the CA, you ask the OC to recall the debt in exchange for payment leaving the OC reporting. Very rarely will you get a OC to remove theirs as well.

 

Another example where this would be used is with medical or utility bills. The OC normally wouldn't report, but the CA would. Asking for recall would remove the blemish as if it never happened. 

    
Message 5 of 15
Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Charge Off advice


@GrandBay wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner  trying to find your Macy's & Nordstrom threads.


Nordstrom: https://ficoforums.myfico.com/t5/Credit-Card-Approvals/Drunken-Nordstrom-Apping-UPDATE-4-28-19/m-p/5...

 

Pretty sure you saw the other one because of the R2 luggage

    
Message 6 of 15
OmarGB9
Community Leader
Super Contributor

Re: Charge Off advice


@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

OCs almost never remove their accounts. You would need to get First Premier to recall the debt and then negotiate a PFD.



It would appear I haven't learned as much I thought because I'm unaware of having an OC recall debt. I will do a little research on that topic. Thank you for your suggestion. 


It's simple. Occasionally, an OC will hire a CA to collect resulting in 2 credit report entries for the same derogatory event. In order to remove the CA, you ask the OC to recall the debt in exchange for payment leaving the OC reporting. Very rarely will you get a OC to remove theirs as well.

 

Another example where this would be used is with medical or utility bills. The OC normally wouldn't report, but the CA would. Asking for recall would remove the blemish as if it never happened. 


But in this case, True Accord doesn't report anyway, so recalling would help only in the sense that OP would be able to negotiate directly with FP as opposed to going through True Accord.

 

OP, you can try getting the debt recalled, but if FP refuses, I'd still pay/settle and then try to ask FP for GW removal of the CO.


Last App: 1/10/2023
Penfed Gold Visa Card

Currently rebuilding as of 04/11/2019.

Starting FICO 8 Scores:




Current FICO 8 scores:


Message 7 of 15
Brian_Earl_Spilner
Credit Mentor

Re: Charge Off advice


@OmarGB9 wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

OCs almost never remove their accounts. You would need to get First Premier to recall the debt and then negotiate a PFD.



It would appear I haven't learned as much I thought because I'm unaware of having an OC recall debt. I will do a little research on that topic. Thank you for your suggestion. 


It's simple. Occasionally, an OC will hire a CA to collect resulting in 2 credit report entries for the same derogatory event. In order to remove the CA, you ask the OC to recall the debt in exchange for payment leaving the OC reporting. Very rarely will you get a OC to remove theirs as well.

 

Another example where this would be used is with medical or utility bills. The OC normally wouldn't report, but the CA would. Asking for recall would remove the blemish as if it never happened. 


But in this case, True Accord doesn't report anyway, so recalling would help only in the sense that OP would be able to negotiate directly with FP as opposed to going through True Accord.

 

OP, you can try getting the debt recalled, but if FP refuses, I'd still pay/settle and then try to ask FP for GW removal of the CO.


Correct, but the goal is to get a deletion. In order to even attempt negotiating, the debt needs to be recalled. If that fails, then a goodwill request will need to be made.

    
Message 8 of 15
Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: Charge Off advice


@OmarGB9 wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

@Anonymous wrote:

@Brian_Earl_Spilner wrote:

OCs almost never remove their accounts. You would need to get First Premier to recall the debt and then negotiate a PFD.



It would appear I haven't learned as much I thought because I'm unaware of having an OC recall debt. I will do a little research on that topic. Thank you for your suggestion. 


It's simple. Occasionally, an OC will hire a CA to collect resulting in 2 credit report entries for the same derogatory event. In order to remove the CA, you ask the OC to recall the debt in exchange for payment leaving the OC reporting. Very rarely will you get a OC to remove theirs as well.

 

Another example where this would be used is with medical or utility bills. The OC normally wouldn't report, but the CA would. Asking for recall would remove the blemish as if it never happened. 


But in this case, True Accord doesn't report anyway, so recalling would help only in the sense that OP would be able to negotiate directly with FP as opposed to going through True Accord.

 

OP, you can try getting the debt recalled, but if FP refuses, I'd still pay/settle and then try to ask FP for GW removal of the CO.


Thank you very much for your imput. It seems as you've both stated the first step is attempting to get the debt recalled. I'll see how that goes and either way keep you guys updated as you took time to reply. Thank you very much

Message 9 of 15
H_you
Valued Member

Re: Charge Off advice

A little confused on this. True Accord is a third party CA. Which means OC does not own the debt any more. Why would OC still be reporting to agencies currently? FCRA violation? 

Message 10 of 15
Advertiser Disclosure: The offers that appear on this site are from third party advertisers from whom FICO receives compensation.