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Anonymous
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Utilization Help

Hello,
I started repairing in Feb and have PFD all collections and gotten nearly everything cleaned up. My FICO8 is 601

I’m left with two positive CC
Amex: 100% utilization
Chase: 90% utilization

Synchrony Bank: two paid CO listing $0 balance, closed status. I am using goodwill saturation method on the long shot I can get these removed

Now that all collections are paid and deleted, I’ve got funds to pay off my cc balances in full but am unsure if that’s best way to raise score or if utilization should be 10% for best scores.

Also, Synchrony is reporting the following:
Account Status: Closed
Payment Status: Charge Off
Balance: $0
Is this the most favorable way for them to report or should the payment status be Paid Charge Off? Would that help score?
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gdale6
Moderator Emeritus

Re: Utilization Help


@Anonymous wrote:
Hello,
I started repairing in Feb and have PFD all collections and gotten nearly everything cleaned up. My FICO8 is 601

I’m left with two positive CC
Amex: 100% utilization
Chase: 90% utilization

Synchrony Bank: two paid CO listing $0 balance, closed status. I am using goodwill saturation method on the long shot I can get these removed

Now that all collections are paid and deleted, I’ve got funds to pay off my cc balances in full but am unsure if that’s best way to raise score or if utilization should be 10% for best scores. By all means pay them off so you incur no further interest then you want one of them reporting 9% or less of its CL to the CRAs each month. 

Also, Synchrony is reporting the following:
Account Status: Closed
Payment Status: Charge Off
Balance: $0
Is this the most favorable way for them to report or should the payment status be Paid Charge Off? Would that help score? DOesnt matter and leave it alone you dont want an update as it would drop your Fico score. They know its paid off with 0 balance.

 

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Anonymous
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Re: Utilization Help

You're losing quite a bit of points for having both individual and total utilization maxed out.

 

What else is left on your report to clean up?

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Anonymous
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Re: Utilization Help

Thanks for your response

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Anonymous
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Re: Utilization Help

@overmedicated

 

Nothing.  I only have the two open cc's Chase and Amex and the two paid Charge Offs.  I have some closed paid in full cc's from a few years ago and one 30 day late on the chase from 3 years ago.  The Amex account is 20+ years old and the Chase 10+.  

 

My wife had a medical emergency in 2016 that had us over our head for a bit but we're pretty solid now.  

 

I should mention that I went from 523 on 2/15/19 to 601 current with my Fico8 (Experian).  I was able to delete collections associated with the charge offs and there was some info that was inaccurate and deleted in dispute.  We want to move soon and plan to rent a home in our area so I am trying to get to 650 or above and as clean as possible.

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BallBounces
Valued Contributor

Re: Utilization Help

As the others have said, you should essentially pay both cards off*.  

 

* If I were in your shoes, I would follow that up (next month or two) with opening ONE new prime card.  Make it secured if need be.  Not a store card (with a few rare exceptions), not a sub prime, not a club tradeline, but a prime credit card.  Then, you will potentially be in position to eke out a few marginal points using AZEO as you let the derogitories age.

 

 

 

 

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HighAchiever
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Re: Utilization Help

Congrats OP for working on bettering you credit profile! I agree with the above and would also suggest paying both credit cards in full. If you had a 3rd credit card, as the previous member suggested, you could take advantage of the AZEO method to help your scores as the accounts age further and your other negative items also age and eventually fall off the report. Also generally speaking, when not using the AZEO method, try and stay under 30% utilization for the reported balance of the available credit limit for each card.   Smiley Happy

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FireMedic1
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Re: Utilization Help


@HighAchiever wrote:

Congrats OP for working on bettering you credit profile! I agree with the above and would also suggest paying both credit cards in full. If you had a 3rd credit card, as the previous member suggested, you could take advantage of the AZEO method to help your scores as the accounts age further and your other negative items also age and eventually fall off the report. Also generally speaking, when not using the AZEO method, try and stay under 30% utilization for the reported balance of the available credit limit for each card.   Smiley Happy


With 2 cards at $0 come statement date. FICO is not a fan of that. Having 1 card report $10 is at 50% on the border. So leaving 1 PIF and 1 @ $10 wont take points away. Having both at $0 will ding the scores. You are correct when the OP hits 3 cards and follow AZEO. Then its at 33.3% and thats under the border of 50% and will help boost the score. Depending on what badies are still hurting.

 

The dont use over 30% of the credit line isn't really true thats plastered all over the net. CCC's and FICO don't watch that. Some CCC's want heavy usage and pay it down. They make money that way. The CCC's want to be paid on time the lower the statement (util) the better and FICO counts whats reported at statement date. FICO only cares what's reported and not what the percentage was used during the month.



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dynamicvb
Valued Contributor

Re: Utilization Help

Definitely get those balances paid down to one under 9%. That will likely help a good bit. You did not mention any installment loan, you are losing some points there too. Might want to look at self lender or one of the other SSL options to correct the mix. How old are your open tradelines now? That would drive me whether I would open another account now. You don't want your average falling too low if they are fairly recent.

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Anonymous
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Re: Utilization Help

Thanks so much everybody!

Both credit cards are pretty old - Amex is 25+ years and Chase 13+. We bought our cars with cash and last home we owned was 14 yrs ago so loan is no longer reporting.

What are thoughts on following the 86%, 66%,46%,26%,6% ... schedule to pay down the balances in an effort to keep my limits high and not be balance chased. Amex limit is $17,600 and Chase is $9200.

I have two goals :
1. short term (30-45 days) - raise my score and look like a good tenant gamble. Kiddos school is keeping us in this neighborhood for one more year, then free to purchase elsewhere
2. Long term (2-3 years) - buy house

My wife and I are solid now but 2016-2018 had us dealing with her medical emergency (4 surgeries) and the death of both my parents - while financially supporting them through cancer diagnoses. That’s why util is so high. We’ve never been here before and we’ve sold my parents home so we’ve got 6 months salary saved and still have more than enough to climb out.
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