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1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!

I knew that having a maxed out individual account utilization situation was bad, but I didn't realize how bad. One card just went from 89% to 48%, and EX FICO 8 jumped 26 points. It no doubt would have been even higher had not several other cards increased their utilization significantly the same day.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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TheFIGuy
Established Contributor

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!


@SouthJamaica wrote:

I knew that having a maxed out individual account utilization situation was bad, but I didn't realize how bad. One card just went from 89% to 48%, and EX FICO 8 jumped 26 points. It no doubt would have been even higher had not several other cards increased their utilization significantly the same day.


I'm sure when you drop below 30% individual account utilization it will be another BIG bump! Smiley Happy

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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!

SJ, was the aggregate utilization drop a non-factor outside of the individual account?

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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!


@TheFIGuy wrote:

@SouthJamaica wrote:

I knew that having a maxed out individual account utilization situation was bad, but I didn't realize how bad. One card just went from 89% to 48%, and EX FICO 8 jumped 26 points. It no doubt would have been even higher had not several other cards increased their utilization significantly the same day.


I'm sure when you drop below 30% individual account utilization it will be another BIG bump! Smiley Happy


No, it won't be, because utilization on some other cards is poor too.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!


@Anonymous wrote:

SJ, was the aggregate utilization drop a non-factor outside of the individual account?


There wasn't an aggregate utilization drop, because the same day some other accounts increased. So yeah it was definitely not a factor since it didn't even happen Smiley Happy


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!

Nice Datapoint SJ, it does seem a little high doesn’t it? Wow!
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!


@Anonymous wrote:
Nice Datapoint SJ, it does seem a little high doesn’t it? Wow!

Yes it really does.

 

And it confirms my view that percentages are much more important than dollar amounts, because (a) this was one of my smaller accounts and  (b) my aggregate utilization actually increased that day.

 

PS It appears that the corresponding gain in EQ FICO 8 was 19 points. 


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Thomas_Thumb
Senior Contributor

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!

I don't think all percentages are created equal. A max out condition is awarded "special" status - IMO. A 20 point increase going from max out territory to under 50% seems reasonable to me if no other cards were above 50%.

 

However, if you still have a few other cards above 50%, a 26 point gain attributable to this alone seems abnormally high.

Fico 9: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 8: .......EQ 850 TU 850 EX 850
Fico 4 .....:. EQ 809 TU 823 EX 830 EX Fico 98: 842
Fico 8 BC:. EQ 892 TU 900 EX 900
Fico 8 AU:. EQ 887 TU 897 EX 899
Fico 4 BC:. EQ 826 TU 858, EX Fico 98 BC: 870
Fico 4 AU:. EQ 831 TU 872, EX Fico 98 AU: 861
VS 3.0:...... EQ 835 TU 835 EX 835
CBIS: ........EQ LN Auto 940 EQ LN Home 870 TU Auto 902 TU Home 950
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SouthJamaica
Mega Contributor

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!


@Thomas_Thumb wrote:

I don't think all percentages are created equal. A max out condition is awarded "special" status - IMO. A 20 point increase going from max out territory to under 50% seems reasonable to me if no other cards were above 50%.

 

However, if you still have a few other cards above 50%, a 26 point gain attributable to this alone seems abnormally high.


No others over 50% but several others at 48% or thereabouts.


Total revolving limits 568220 (504020 reporting) FICO 8: EQ 689 TU 691 EX 682




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Anonymous
Not applicable

Re: 1 card from 89% to 48% --> +26 points!

Did you look at aggregate dollars outside of aggregate percentage?

 

For example, aggregate percentage may move from 6.8% to 6.1% for someone with $160k in overall limits... percentage wise that is clearly insignificant.  Dollars wise however, that move would cross $10k in aggregate balances.  If $10k were a threshold (not saying it is, just a sake of numbers conversation) it could possibly impact score.

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