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@Anonymous wrote:
Hello children it's me again, 2 points came back again on EX as soon as Discover reported 1% yesterday, highest individual UTI is now at 3%.
Thanks for the follow-up, OM.
Looks like 3 of us in this thread experienced the same 2 point ding for 1 card over 8.9%. Good stuff!
@NRB525 wrote:
As I have said many times in the past, AZEO misleads people. The scoring benefit does not come from the “just one card” part, the benefit comes from lower utilization.
Well, the benefit can come from both depending on number of accounts with balances. For someone with many open accounts, the chances of "just 1 card" mattering seems to become less compared to if someone has (say) 2-3 cards. Lower utilization is of course King to number of accounts with blances, but it can still play a role.
@NRB525 wrote:
Do you have an example of someone with no baddies in their file, three cards, each card under 8% utilization, and they see any score change with 1/3 to 2/3 to 3/3?
And to be clear there can be no baddies in the file.
I think the better question would be do you have an example above where that person doesn't see a score change? I agree on the no baddies part. Also a huge factor here as I indicated above is total number of accounts. If this person only has 3 revolving accounts and that's it on their CR, I'd be very surprised to see no score change at all. If they have a ton of other accounts like say 10 student loans and other things going on, percentage wise going from 1 --> 2 --> 3 may not matter at all. It's also worth noting that on many profiles (like mine) Experian doesn't care at all about number of accounts with balances, where I can see 10-15 point drops on TU/EQ for the same number of accounts with balances changing events.
Sure OM, go for it
I don't really think the 3 cards thing here is relevant, as the test will yield similar results with more accounts, possibly even quicker. Many people on this forum like CGID and myself believe that the negative reason statement "too many accounts with balances" may apply also to the total integer number of accounts with a balance, not just the percentage of accounts with a balance. That being said, if you take a profile with twice as many cards... in this case 6 instead of 3, while remaining the same percentage wise (1 of 3 verses 2 of 6... 2 of 3 verses 4 of 6 or example) you'd be doubling the integer number of accounts with a balance. To me, this just means the chances of a penalty only increases (if you're one of the people that feel integer number matters) if the number of total accounts on one's credit report increases.
Again, when looking at this test I feel it's important to reference report/score changes with respect to only TU and EQ, as EX behaves much differently for many people.